Verizon finally got off of their rears...now what? - General Questions and Answers

I'm debating between getting the Touch Pro or the Omnia. I've obviously read the specs, but was just curious if anyone had any input on the pros and cons of each.
Thanks in advance.

Touch Pro has a keyboard, which I really see as an advantage. And Omnia wants to be a "normal" phone a bit too much. It lacks many things you need on a WM device, such as a STYLUS. Sure you get one with the Omnia, but it dangles from a string.
I would get a HTC device over a Samsung device any day. But that's just my opinion

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Anyone who hasn't bought the Touch Pro would think about getting this one?
Comparing a smartphone to a PDA phone is like comparing an apple to an orange.
I will still be getting a Touch Pro when (if) it comes out for Verizon.
symyn said:
Comparing a smartphone to a PDA phone is like comparing an apple to an orange.
I will still be getting a Touch Pro when (if) it comes out for Verizon.
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It's more like comparing their similarities here.
It's intresting, but the thickness is about the same as the touch pro. If both are going to stick out of my pocket like a brick, I'm going for the touch screen version.
I had the htc s710 for a while and that was my favorite smartphone. This seems interesting i'd like to see some reviews on whenever it is released. Looks nice though and i'm surprised at how similar it is to the touch pro excluding the touch screen of course.
I would rather keep my s730 than go with that. Too blocky. Makes me sad that they are putting in the things the pre production s730 had which they pulled for production (like GPS and hopefully working drivers and no memory leak lol).
I would still rather go with the Touch Pro.
Like I mentioned in a similar thread in the diamond section, this thing has got QVGA resolution screen. Thats reason enough not to buy it.
WM 6.1 Standard (=Smartphone edition) does not support VGA. Its maximum is 320x320 or 440x240 (if I'm not mistaken).

AT&T not getting diamond, what about LG Insight?

I currently have an 8525 and am due to upgrade in a couple months. I admit I am very dissapointed that att isn't picking up the diamond. I like it. Moreover, I like how the site is full of cleaned up roms!! I never really liked my phone until I flashed my first rom and it sped up incredibly.
So, my question is this. I was looking at the LG insight and I kinda liked it. Does anyone know if there is a site for that phone that has roms?
I got over them not getting the diamond. I held hope for the Omnia. Now im just pissed. I think the Incite was a bad choice and I can only conclude they must have gotten it cheap compared to the omnia or diamond. I heard the GPS may not be working well too, I would have to confirm that.
The diamond or omnia are just so much better yet ATT goes with the incite? sigh.
I would google some reviews before you make a decesion.
I ended up with a treo pro in the end anyway. Its a compromise, keyboard but small screen.
AT&T got the raphael, bold, and the iphone. i'd say that's about as good a lineup you could ask for. just ask my fellow friends at tmobile and we'll say you're a bunch lucky ducks
Insights on the Incite
papageoff said:
. . . So, my question is this. I was looking at the LG insight and I kinda liked it. Does anyone know if there is a site for that phone that has roms?
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kapster said:
. . . I think the Incite was a bad choice and I can only conclude they must have gotten it cheap compared to the omnia or diamond. I heard the GPS may not be working well too, I would have to confirm that. . .
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I have an Incite. My observations:
1) screen is beautiful for a device that's not VGA - much sharper than the Tilt, and the Incite Today Screen plugin looks quite nice.
2) The jogwheel on the side is a nice feature.
3) I don't like the vibrate-touch feature, but it can be turned off.
4) Pandora is awesome, but AT&T wants to stick you for $8.95/mo on the Incite, where it is free on iPhone. Unfortunately, the Pandora.exe file won't display properly on either a Tilt or a Fuze, which brings up:
5) Many programs of standard dimensions (240x320), especially games, won't display properly. For instance, Battery Status options can't all be accessed.
6) GPS will not communicate with the iGuidance GPS software I use, although GPSTest works.
7) Using the landscape keyboard is nearly impossible because it takes up so much of the screen that only one line of type is visible. The Portrait SureType-style keyboard is fine.
8) The dialer is very good looking and easy to use.
All in all, a pretty good first WinMo offering from LG, IMHO, but not cutting-edge.
You could get an Unlocked Diamond and put your at&t sim card in it...
or just get the touch pro the thickness really isnt an issue
i came from an 8525 so much better and smaller

Upgrading to SAMSUNG OMNIA

hi, do you think is it a good move to do buy samsung omnia when now i got htc touch,please reply and say a couple of words about omnia.
you do know the stylus of the omnia is seperate from the device.
yes, i know but my question is about is it good move to upgrade to omnia, give me your opinions if you used it or have it.
Don't get me wrong. I like my omnia a lot, even on edge-only on ATT. I use tv-out alot. I've had the tilt and fuze. The qvga vs. vga doesn't bother me. I don't mind the lack of a hard keyboard. The optical sensor doesn't work as well as a d pad. I can't play as many games as I used to play on other devices. But I gave my fuze to my daughter and am using the omnia, because I like it lots and fits my needs better. If you had asked even 2 months ago, I would've said go for the omnia. But, I am saying now, if you can wait, go for a newer model shown at the MWC this week. They are all better than the omnia or fuze or in at least one major way, be it new wvga screen, fast processor, a tilt screen, etc. If you can't wait, omnia's good.
I was in the same boat a few months ago after my selling my Elfin. I am more than happy with the Omnia, I miss the stylus probably the most but the speed of the phone vs the Touch is vast. Also the multimedia experinece is far improved.
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I was in the same boat a few months ago after my selling my Elfin. I am more than happy with the Omnia, I miss the stylus probably the most but the speed of the phone vs the Touch is vast. Also the multimedia experinece is far improved.
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Oh yeah, I forgot that. But I always used a closed pen for a stylus, anyways... Got tired of the locking-of-the-fuze-with-the-stylus bit.

best htc on the market help!!

hi guys
My question is simple, probably the awnser
er won't be, i just want to know what's the best htc out there to buy, or other PDA/Phone to buy. It's supposed to be windows mobile based so i can use some apps (It will be a phone for work, soi need to use some health department based apps, usually for WM). Keeping in mind that i would rather have an htc but other opinions are welcome, money is no issue (company pays ).
thanks in advance
Touch Pro 2
keyboard makes it a bit heavier but it speeds things up quite a bit. IMHO
+1 fot TP2!!
Also you can consider Tosh TG0
Here a little bit of history:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=446362
Merge threads: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=4181268#post4181268
Depends on what you want really.
I would go for Touch Pro 2 if you want QWERTY keyboard.
Diamond if you want compact.
Touch HD if you want large screen no QWERTY.
Other significant options (non-htc) are:
Samsung Omnia II's - due out any day now, come in "iphone" style, slider keyboard and blackberry shapes. These all come with supposedly very funky, very battery saving AMOLED screens. If they follow the same standards as the Omnia 1, they are a VERY worthy competitor.
Acer M900 (which I use) - Slide out keyboard
Acer F900 - iphone style
I personaly won't touch another HTC device due to my experiences with the past four i've owned - they all hardware failed one way or another. My Omnia was about as near to perfect as I ever got. Before I heard about the Samsung Omnia II's I'd already bought the Acer M900 (the M900 is a great phone though and I wont be replacing it for a while, even though I can afford to).
thanks for the quick replys guys.
the pro II seems a very good choice, but i really want to make this right, so i've decided to do some more checking b4 i buy.
Monty raised up a good question that i should add to my scale, the omnia II, but what's the difference between that one and the omnia pro?
http://bizanywhere.files.wordpress.com/2009/04/samsung-omnia-pro-qwerty.jpg?w=560&h=464
the url above (if it isn't blocked) is the pro i think, seems a very sharp phone, and it looks good 2.
HTC is still my preference but i want to be sure.
PS: i have a htc p3470 pharos , and i love it, 2 bad it doesn't have wi-fi and a faster cpu. i had an iphone for about a month (laughs) it's a very good phone, for a leisure phone, for a second phone maybe, but not a working man's phone, at least in my situation (if you're puff daddy propably is).
The OmniaPro (slide out keyboard) trounces the TouchPro 2 in a lot of things:
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I've also listed the old Omnia for comparison sake as well as the Omnia II and my current phone of choice, the Acer M900
edit: to be fair though, i dont think you would be upset with a TP2 either, its still a well spec'ed phone.... just hope it holds together more than 6 months!

Okay Raph users.... what's next?

Hi guys!
Well, after four FUZE's.... for me, my partner, and two employees, it seems like it's time for an upgrade.
I've a blast with NATF's 4 series ROMS, and after about a year, I'm looking for a new device.
I noticed that the Touch Pro has the same CPU as our trusty Raphs, so I am not thrilled with that.
I find my device rather sluggish. It's not terrible, but... well... you know how it is!
So... Does anyone have any experience with a newer device? Maybe the Touch Pro 2 IS a big improvement (better resolution / tilt keyboard...), but it doesn't appear that way.
Thoughts are most definitely welcome.
I need to order another device, and right now, I just can't think of anything beyond yet another Fuze.
I'd love to hear what you guys have to say! I'm itching for a new device!
Thanks!
Mike
i don't find it that sluggish...
iPhone now? or the Palm Pre?
If your TP is sluggish, are you running the rom that came with the phone?
Mine was, until I discovered the cooked 6.5 roms back in May. I've flashed mine dozens of times. The 2303x builds are LIGHTNING fast, and depending on who you get it from, 99% of them are rock stable.
Pop over to the rom section, read the "flashing guide for Newbies" and then check out some of the great roms. These guys put in a LOT of time making the WM software better, and NO CARRIER BLOATWARE.
Michael_514 said:
Hi guys!
Well, after four FUZE's.... for me, my partner, and two employees, it seems like it's time for an upgrade.
I've a blast with NATF's 4 series ROMS, and after about a year, I'm looking for a new device.
I noticed that the Touch Pro has the same CPU as our trusty Raphs, so I am not thrilled with that.
I find my device rather sluggish. It's not terrible, but... well... you know how it is!
So... Does anyone have any experience with a newer device? Maybe the Touch Pro 2 IS a big improvement (better resolution / tilt keyboard...), but it doesn't appear that way.
Thoughts are most definitely welcome.
I need to order another device, and right now, I just can't think of anything beyond yet another Fuze.
I'd love to hear what you guys have to say! I'm itching for a new device!
Thanks!
Mike
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Get an iPhone. Duh!
On a serious note, it depends on whether you want to stay on the Windows Mobile platform or not, and whether you still want a physical keyboard or not. If you don't mind giving all touch-screen a try, then consider getting the Touch Pro HD (HTC Blackstone). I've heard great things about it, and it looks absolutely lovely. Otherwise, the only real upgrade path that I can think of is getting the Touch Pro 2 or similar.
It's really hard to upgrade when you're pretty much at the upper limit for smartphones. The Raphael is one of HTC's fastest devices, so keep that in mind.
My friend went from a Sprint Touch Pro (CDMA) to an Iphone 3G S 32GB... and he is a computer science grad student and a tech nerd... and he is blown away by the iphone. Yes Iphone OS is not like WM in functionality, but what the OS lacks, the apps make up for it. The Iphone is very stable, doesn't overheat (his doesn't), and is incredibly snappy. Plus its got a great screen, a built in ipod, etc. Just no insurance! =X And Apple control...
Hi guys!
First of all, allow me to clarify... I would 100% like to stay with a Windows Mobile phone, and second of all, I DEFINITELY need a slide out QWERTY keyboard.
And FYI.. I should have clarified... I am not a newbie! I have been hacking these phones and updating my ROMS for years now.
As I thought I mentioned, I have been flashing NATF's ROMS.
I started out with the CASIO BOSS in 1986, and as of late, I've had around six HTC phones, from the SX-66 to the 8125 to the 8525 to the FUZE, and so forth.
I don't know much about the iPhone 3GS, but I wrote a lengthy review of the 3G, and it just didn't suit my needs.
And like it or not, the FUZE is sluggish on my levels, even with the best ROMS. I don't think it's TERRIBLE, not at all, but let's face it... It's more like the feeling I get working off my modest Tablet PC on battery, than off my 4 monitored desktop's Quad Core Q9450 64Bit CPU, with 8 GB of RAM and 4TB on the hard drive.
There is just that little bit of 2008/2009 sluggishness that is making me a little eager and power hungry for a mind-blowing 2009/2010 device.
So, yeah, all this to say, I am not looking for an iPhone(!)
I am looking for a kick-ass Windows Mobile device that is the "next generation". The 8525 was an excellent jump from the 8125, which was an excellent jump from the SX66.
I am just looking for an equivalent jump, even if it's not made by HTC.
The FUZE/Touch Pro was THE must-have phone for all Hermes users.
I just needed a little guidance for the next one.
I am still looking for your suggestions! Thanks!
The TP2 has the best keyboard I've ever used on a phone. I've had the 8525, Tilt and Touch Pro (and a few others along the way). In fact, if I spend a few more days with it I may be faster with it than a desktop...it's really that good. As for performance, the AT&T version is excepted to come with 6.5 and 6.5 does run a lot better than 6.1 does in terms of speed but it's also a lot smoother overall and easier to use. It's probably 45 days off though if the rumors are right. The screen (a huge WVGA) feels a lot more sensitive. As far as speed, it is the same chipset and I've used both a Touch HD and a TP2 and it does feel faster but I think it's partially due to a mroe sensitive screen and people confuse that with the response time because the taps are easier to register. using TF3D you get your occasional hiccup. For my 2 cents I think when 6.5 comes out TF3D may not be as necessary but it's a personal preference. I hope TF3D 2.5 runs lighter since as a program it is pretty heavy in v2.1. All of this plays into 'speed'. In short though, the TP2 does feel like a pretty big upgrade over the TP(1). Again,t he screen size lets you see so much more that it simply puts it into another class. You can easily one hand emails with the onscreen keyboard and that works great for short responses but for large emails just open the keyboard and you feel like you have a minicomputer.
I've just purchased a TP2 to replace my TP1.
Same familiar WinMo, same massive repoistory of software, bigger screen, better keyboard. And it's not a piece of fruit
Thanks guys!
Very interesting praise for the TP2.
I had no idea the AT&T version was just around the corner. Good news.
bugsy, that is quite the glowing review. I was quite surprised to hear it had the same processor as the TP. I was hoping for a little boost!
Thanks again!
I just ordered one on ebay!
I know it's a little late, but have you considered symbian?
Nokia's got some really cool smart phones. The N97's bad ass!
Acer m900 until the USA compatible Omnia Pro shows up. Everything on the Acer is snappier than the Touch Pro, and probably what the older Wizard was like. Glad to be off the candy toy-phone the HTC made the Touch Pro into. Couldn't even do handwriting, nor using the VGA proper on a screen of that tiny size and the Qualcomm lag...
Both (m900, OmniaPro) still half as fast as the iPhone 3GS, but waiting for the 3GS to gain either cheap unlocked, or Palm Pre to go GSM. Nokia is still in some ditch thinking crap cpus can get them far.
Let us know how it turns out.

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