Hi, i user my kaiser as a modem for my laptop through active sync. with a big download it can be on for several hours. the kaiser gets very hot, i take the back cover off and prop the unit off the desk. i know this will shorten the life of it though, any suggestions?
using your kaiser's modem is much like using the phone itself. it emits heat due to electromagnetic waves going in and out of your antenna. you can't run away from it because your battery has to supply power to your modem and that creates even more heat. this creates a positive heat feedback on your battery.. so the more it heats the more it heats.
unfortunatly there's no solution to mobile cooling yet in the power units but what you can do is try to put it on a heat conducting surface like metal.. and while at it, keep it AWAY FROM YOU because it's NOT healthy.
ok, thanks nir36. thats what i thought. another one though, is it possible to take the battery out once its connected on usb?
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Does anyone experience extreme heat while plugged in? I know this has been discussed elsewhere bute I like the idea of a dedicated thread. Mine gets as hot as 50°c or 122°F. That's blistering hot to me. Does anyone knows if google plans a fix? I'd be happy not to have to worry about my phone frying in the cradle.
Totally not worth a dedicated thread since it's being discussed ad nauseum in the other thread.
SPAS79 said:
Does anyone experience extreme heat while plugged in? I know this has been discussed elsewhere bute I like the idea of a dedicated thread. Mine gets as hot as 50°c or 122°F. That's blistering hot to me
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Where are you measuring the temp from? Mine gets hot in the car dock too but not overly. I figure google will have tested it. So am not really concerned.
If you want to mitigate the heat while it is charging in the car dock, simply minimise what the phone is doing. ie no nav/gps and screen off. You could for example do this 5 or 10 minutes before your destination and it may be somewhat cooler when you take it out of the dock. Obviously this may not be appropriate as you might need to use it at this point. Just a suggestion though if the heat is a real concern to you.
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Totally not worth a dedicated thread since it's being discussed ad nauseum in the other thread.
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Well If that's the case then mods please move the thread or merge it. My phone gets really hot and I'm measuring it with juice plotter. I Guess it's pretty accurate.
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My phone gets really hot and I'm measuring it with juice plotter. I Guess it's pretty accurate.
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I am sure is accurate. But I would only get concerned myself, if the phone case itself was alarmingly hot and I feared something was melting or burning. I am not worried about what Temp battery apps or the inbuilt Testing reports. I figure the phone system will shut it self down or reduce load if thresholds are reached.
yeah that's right. But anyway I do not think a temp of 50 celsius is exactly healty for the battery. We do not all live in Alaska and it might get mighty hot in southwest texas or southern Italy... In addiction I think the warmth has something to do with the screen as pretty much EVERY TIME I take the phone off the car dock the screen calibration is all f'd up. I seldom experienced that before but now it is 95% of the times I take it off the car dock. Sometimes even when plugged into the dock.
I love the phone and the dock, and this is maybe the only one glitch I found so far, but is really very annoying when it happens.
If anybody could help I would really appreciate that.
Also, any answer like "put it in front of the AC outlet" to me is pointless. It should not get that hot. period. and owning a Camaro it is not that easy to figure out a good spot to glue the disc on, surely not near an A/C vent...
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Does anyone experience extreme heat while plugged in? I know this has been discussed elsewhere bute I like the idea of a dedicated thread. Mine gets as hot as 50°c or 122°F. That's blistering hot to me. Does anyone knows if google plans a fix? I'd be happy not to have to worry about my phone frying in the cradle.
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I don't have the official Nexus One car dock but I have a car dock. Mine is pretty hot after I take it out. GPS on, dimness auto on, screen timeout off, audio to stereo, and charging.
I would say it's not the docks problem but rather its the heavy use of the phone. I've read this is normal on the nexus one since it's got a 1ghz processor. Heavy use = heat.
I've got heat issues in Phoenix but I'm confident it will be fine this summer.
Ironically, i DO live in Alaska, and noted it was a bit warm charging, playing music, and using GPS navigation.
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i'm using my Touch pro as a GPS in the car, and charge it using the original car charger
but when the weather is hot the battery temperature gets high which stop the charging process, making the phone dead in less than an hour
is there any way to bypass the battery temp check while charging?
If there is a way... your battery will die...
why don´t you just leave it? wait till it´s cold enough again and charges... the battery will give you the electricity you need... and always charging is not good either
And you can remove your battery cover to let it get colder or put it in front of the air conditioner
cheers, stephan1
it's a feature that prevents your phone from blowing up.
Don't think of a way to bypass a safety measure, think of a way to cool it down.
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it's a feature that prevents your phone from blowing up.
Don't think of a way to bypass a safety measure, think of a way to cool it down.
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Yes... that´s exactly my opinion
I used TomTom yesterday
I found out that when enough sats it's totally okay to cover it a bit.
Okay, i have a glas roof, but even the falk navigator didn't work better in this situation!
I drive a Citroen C4 Grand Picasso and I placed my htc in the computer section there.
i jerry rigged up a great device for holding the phone against the a/c vent nearest the windshield to fix this very problem.
altho my phone doesn't do GPS anymore anywa..
Using the phone while tethered to my laptop.. i got a message stating the above.. Is there anyway around this ridiculousness? I remember the Touch Pro had this issue at first as well.
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Using the phone while tethered to my laptop.. i got a message stating the above.. Is there anyway around this ridiculousness? I remember the Touch Pro had this issue at first as well.
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First of all this is wrong section..
Second of all this is not ridiculous..this is how physics works...It is not the limitation of the phone, it is limitation of Lithium-Batteries...when charging and consuming a lot of energy like say with WIFI it causes Lithium batteries to heat up...at a certain point your phone stops charging to prevent the battery from exploding...this has been the same with ALL phones as long as they use Lithium batteries.
Solution: Put your phone on a metal platform..the metal platform will act as a heat sink and should alleviate the issue.
I remember there was a phone that was blowing up in peoples pockets when the battery came in contact with metal. Or was it the ipod touch?
But anyways you better give your phone a break too. Pull the battery for a minute and put it back in and Plug your evo in and let it charge off for like 15/20 minutes and then it should be ok to turn on. But if you wanna be safe just charge it while its off until its done
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I've had my thunderbolt for awhile now and ive been noticing how hot it gets when streaming movies I downloaded a battery temp widget and at ruined it gets above 107 wstreaming movies or downloading, I do live in Atlanta and it is on the high 90,s but I didn't seem to b noticing this on my incredible. I'm rooted and have been running diffrent time running gingeritis v1.0 now
If you're that worried, quit overclocking. Also, not all the heat is from the cpu; some is given off by the internals related to the antenna, but shouldn't be a problem unless it's used excessively over a long period of time. I've had it overheat and reset from doing a large download over LTE for a few hours.
Not really concerned more curious to wether everyone else is seeing fast heat up to
It's almost 100 degrees out, you are streaming movies and OC'd, and you are wondering if the phone getting hot in conditions like this is abnormal
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I've had my thunderbolt for awhile now and ive been noticing how hot it gets when streaming movies I downloaded a battery temp widget and at ruined it gets above 107 wstreaming movies or downloading, I do live in Atlanta and it is on the high 90,s but I didn't seem to b noticing this on my incredible. I'm rooted and have been running diffrent time running gingeritis v1.0 now
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You have to remember that most of that heat is generated because of the reactions within the battery to supply power to the phone. So the more draw you put on the battery the hotter it's going to get. Lithium batteries are notorious for running high temps when being charged/discharged. It's part of the price you pay to have more capacity is a smaller space.
I flown RC heli's for years, so I'm very familiar with how lithium batteries react. They pack alot of power in minimum space, but they can be dangerous is certain situations (that's why cars like the Prius still do not use them in production because of the fire risk).
Just a bit of info to think about.
There's a good thread on xda that's has documented on several test that LTE is the cause of the overheating. The test was done on stock ruu with no OC. Of course being Oc'd doesn't help your case, but I've noticed LTE in weak areas can raise battery temperature up to 107 degrees Fahrenheit without streaming video or having any rogue applications running. I've also reduced cpu speed to 744 mhz with no luck. Hopefully new RUU releases will address this problem.
I'll post the thread when I get a chance.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1109880
4G LTE Rapid Power Burn Issue
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There's a good thread on xda that's has documented on several test that LTE is the cause of the overheating. The test was done on stock ruu with no OC.
I'll post the thread when I get a chance.
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I don't believe that is the cause at all, as I have 4G, and use it, where I live all day, and OC to 1.4, I have never had overheating problems at all. He was outside in almost 100 degree weather, streaming movies, there isn't a fan cooling the phone, that temperature is normal.
I'm outside during the week in 80-85 degree weather, streaming music on a sunny day and my phone gets hotter than normal, because it is working harder than normal.
The OP is downloading or streaming movies in hot weather when it gets hot. 2 data & processor intensive tasks, you can't expect it to stay cool at normal temperature in conditions like that.
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I don't believe that is the cause at all, as I have 4G, and use it, where I live all day, and OC to 1.4, I have never had overheating problems at all. He was outside in almost 100 degree weather, streaming movies, there isn't a fan cooling the phone, that temperature is normal.
I'm outside during the week in 80-85 degree weather, streaming music on a sunny day and my phone gets hotter than normal, because it is working harder than normal.
The OP is downloading or streaming movies in hot weather when it gets hot. 2 data & processor intensive tasks, you can't expect it to stay cool at normal temperature in conditions like that.
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That's certainly another factor I didn't consider.
I understand all that I've played with all the processor speeds and observed how of reacts in difrent situations compared to the incredible and even on 3g under all same conditions it heats up at a way faster rate, not saying the reason its overheating isn't my fault nor do I ever let it get past a safe level just wondering
OP, trust me your phone is not "Overheating" at 107. If it gets to 125/130+ then you have a problem but these phones were built to withstand the temps you are seeing.
Basically, don't worry about it.
The biggest thing i have noticed is that when i recharge with the power cord at home, it don't get hot. But when i recharge with a cig adaptor, it runs pretty hot. But on the flipside of that, If i use my wifes cig charger that came with her LG ally, it don't overheat. These phones are drama queens about charging
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The biggest thing i have noticed is that when i recharge with the power cord at home, it don't get hot. But when i recharge with a cig adaptor, it runs pretty hot. But on the flipside of that, If i use my wifes cig charger that came with her LG ally, it don't overheat. These phones are drama queens about charging
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That may be because of the quality of the chargers you are using. Electrical power is kind of like water. The bigger the pipes the better the flow. If you have a good pipeline, less heat because the battery doesn't have to work so hard pulling the electricity in.
A wall charger (spec'd for your phone) is probably the best choice, you wife's cig charger may just be a bit better quality with thicker gauge wiring.
I know this is a pretty simplified explanation, but hopefully it makes sense.
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That may be because of the quality of the chargers you are using. Electrical power is kind of like water. The bigger the pipes the better the flow. If you have a good pipeline, less heat because the battery doesn't have to work so hard pulling the electricity in.
A wall charger (spec'd for your phone) is probably the best choice, you wife's cig charger may just be a bit better quality with thicker gauge wiring.
I know this is a pretty simplified explanation, but hopefully it makes sense.
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Also having direct sunlight on your phone probably makes a difference.
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miketoasty said:
OP, trust me your phone is not "Overheating" at 107. If it gets to 125/130+ then you have a problem but these phones were built to withstand the temps you are seeing.
Basically, don't worry about it.
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i've gotten close to 130 on several Thunderbolts. and it's not even that hot in SoCal yet. i've seen over 1200ma before a few times. this was on non-rooted Thunderbolts.
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That may be because of the quality of the chargers you are using. Electrical power is kind of like water. The bigger the pipes the better the flow. If you have a good pipeline, less heat because the battery doesn't have to work so hard pulling the electricity in.
A wall charger (spec'd for your phone) is probably the best choice, you wife's cig charger may just be a bit better quality with thicker gauge wiring.
I know this is a pretty simplified explanation, but hopefully it makes sense.
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it's also possible that the Ally requires less power. The Thunderbolt is spec'd for charging at 5V/1A. If the Ally is 5V/800ma, then it would not get as hot when charging the Ally. Out of curiosity, what does the charger spec as voltage/amperage?
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OP, trust me your phone is not "Overheating" at 107. If it gets to 125/130+ then you have a problem but these phones were built to withstand the temps you are seeing.
Basically, don't worry about it.
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My TBOLT gets pretty warm, but I've never had any real problems with it. I did however when I was on the Incredible. I agree, I wouldn't worry about it.
My job has very strict security and I am not allowed to bring my phone inside, so my options are leave it on the car or leave it at home. I have to travel a fair distance to my job, so prefer not to leave it at home, but I am concerned about extreme heat and cold in the car affecting my phone. Any suggestions for protecting the phone while left in the car? My work days can range anywhere from 8 1/2 hours to 16+ hours.
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Nobody has any suggestions?
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the heat itself shouldnt do anything if your phones just hybernating i suggest just putting it under the seat or the glove box were the sun cant get to it.
I think the thing you might need to be concerned with is the battery... extreme temperatures can adversely affect battery life/longevity. Would you be able to just bring the battery in if you removed it from your phone? I imagine the security issue with the phone primarily has to do with photographing or otherwise transmitting private information, such as trade secrets, right?
Yea, I can't see any real issues with leaving your phone in a car with hot or cold conditions. As said above, it *may* affect battery life, but even that would be minimal, barely nothing.
If you're concerned, wrap it in a blanket or towel, this will stop it getting either extremely hot, or extremely cold.
I also think, that it could get too hot. I would put it in a cooler bag. (without cool akkus or something like that.. just in the isolated bag (you know what I mean ? Those for a few beer cans.... )
But this also shouldn't be necessary, if you place your phone sunsafe...
Thanks for the suggestions. Yes, the phone ban is for the reason above. It shouldn't be an issue to take the battery though. I will also try an insulated cooler. I always use a sunshade as well. Even worse than worrying about my phone is the agony of being separated from it for such long hours at a time, lol.
Thanks again!
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