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I have been having a lot of distortion problem with my Vox. So help me out. Currently I am using 4.1.13.60_03.18.90.
Kindly vote and tell your experience with different versions.
I never had any problems with 03.10.90! But then again my state is fairly good covered (Saxony). I think only like 2% of the area is not covered with GSM (and lately more and more with EDGE too)!
I plan on giving a thorough test of all the later versions once I re-assemble my mobile. I also noticed high distortion on 4.1.13.60_03.18.90 immediately after flashing. I am led to believe this was a small reason my ear piece failed, the distortion and higher volume 'popped' in and it would no longer function properly, heck, it could also have been since it was quite old too.
Anyways, for good measure I will be reverting to 4.1.13.47_02.98.90, I never had issues with the radio shipped from the factory and coverage was no problem. I suggest you downgrade before any hardware has a chance at being ruined.
h4waii is true. I have installed several radios and I have found 4.1.13.47_02.98.90 the best especialy for areas with weak signals.
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Anyways, for good measure I will be reverting to 4.1.13.47_02.98.90, I never had issues with the radio shipped from the factory and coverage was no problem. I suggest you downgrade before any hardware has a chance at being ruined.
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I read your thread that you are reassembling your phone. I hope you will put a video guide for others too. That will be very useful.
I was reading through forum and I came across a post in which he had said that he pulled out the battery and put it after a few hours and things were back to normal. Well I tried it and I dont know what is the logic but it worked. Still echos on high volume but other reception distortion is gone.
Can radio damage your phone? Mine was shipped with v4.1.13.54_03.10.90.
@frauhottelmann
You have cooked a lite rom and it is not with latest XIP. Why you and Gonzo are not updating their Roms. Lefab also not working on WM6.1 Rom. Only one working is Hikey, and he does not have a thread here. I requested him in post but he refused by saying their are already too many roms here. Is it possible to hope that one of you will bring a clean Rom with latest XIP. New XIP is much faster.
i use v4.1.13.60_03.18.90
I have never noticed this distortion you mention
I can tel you why I never did continue cooking. There are three reasons:
1) I simply got tired. It is in fact a quite annyoing process. Espacially working on a 96dpi ROM, everytime you fixed something another problem turns up.
2) I experimented with OSs on my computer (from XP to Vista to Server 2008 to Vista and in the end of the week back to XP - the switching back is due to hardware problems) lol And cooking under anything else then XP is not quite safe and I experienced more problems under Vista!
3) Nobody ever requested a new updated Lite ROM (at least until now ^^) because people usually just download the stuff and don't report back unless there is a problem (you get sick of that too!)
Hey I will have time next week, so I will probably make Lite 3.0 with new XIP...the problem is that I don't have the Sys and OEM folders anymore, so I will have to start from scratch...
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I can tel you why I never did continue cooking. There are three reasons:
1) I simply got tired. It is in fact a quite annyoing process. Espacially working on a 96dpi ROM, everytime you fixed something another problem turns up.
2) I experimented with OSs on my computer (from XP to Vista to Server 2008 to Vista and in the end of the week back to XP - the switching back is due to hardware problems) lol And cooking under anything else then XP is not quite safe and I experienced more problems under Vista!
3) Nobody ever requested a new updated Lite ROM (at least until now ^^) because people usually just download the stuff and don't report back unless there is a problem (you get sick of that too!)
Hey I will have time next week, so I will probably make Lite 3.0 with new XIP...the problem is that I don't have the Sys and OEM folders anymore, so I will have to start from scratch...
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Hmmm you are quite right about the feedback thing. If you work hard on something it no one appreciates it obviously it hurts.
Well atleast I will wait for your new rom. I hope you do something about java. Add jebed or provide link to cab for you new rom.
I did tried your rom, I would have kept it but new XIP is much faster so I had to switch.
@tipu2185;
While a radio in itself can't really damage your hardware, issues caused by it can. Such as high distortion and crackling, this can ruin a speaker. With the right software, hardware can be destroyed.
I've already re-assembled the Vox after replacing both the vibrate motor and the inner ear piece. It's fairly straight forward. I didn't bother to take any pictures as there is a service manual which indicates step-by-step how to do this.
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@tipu2185;
While a radio in itself can't really damage your hardware, issues caused by it can. Such as high distortion and crackling, this can ruin a speaker. With the right software, hardware can be destroyed.
I've already re-assembled the Vox after replacing both the vibrate motor and the inner ear piece. It's fairly straight forward. I didn't bother to take any pictures as there is a service manual which indicates step-by-step how to do this.
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Can you link to that service manual. I might need it later some time.
Tipu2185,
How are you finding this radio version so far? Have yor initial problems gone?
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Tipu2185,
How are you finding this radio version so far? Have yor initial problems gone?
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Yes it is working fine now
Where?
I want to installl Radio v4.1.13.60_03.18.90, but I can't find it anywhere. Anyone care to provide a download link?
Thanks!
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I want to installl Radio v4.1.13.60_03.18.90, but I can't find it anywhere. Anyone care to provide a download link?
Thanks!
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check the wiki in first two sticky threads. It is there
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check the wiki in first two sticky threads. It is there
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I searched for 20min and finally found it! http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=402778
Thanks!
If there was already a discussion about this I'm sorry. Apparently I suck at using the search feature...
I've wanted this phone for what feels like forever and will be given this as an early Christmas present in the next week, due to the issues of my failing Tilt. I can't decide if I should get the AT&T Fuze (I have AT&T now) or an unlocked version of the Touch Pro. I know it's the "same" phone but I also know the software/features differ. I tried to compare the two in the HTC Wiki but I know I can get much more useful information here.
1. Which unit would you recommend and what would I be giving up/gaining from either? I know the unlocked wouldn't have the AT&T specific software, not sure if that's good or bad.
2. Does the Fuze have a "flash" for the camera? Also, which unit has the better camera? It seems that the TP has more features, but slightly less MP.
3. Do they both support A2DP?
4. Frequencies confuse me! Quad-band, tri-band... bottom line which unit is faster & do they both support 3G (American version)?
5. Am I able to get Hotmail directly on either the Fuze or TP? Or is there software that enables me to? I'm running one of Dutty's fabulous ROMs on my Tilt now and love that I'm able to get Hotmail!
Sorry if any of these questions seem stupid- I'm fairly new at this & every time I turn around the new technology is way over my head! Any input/opinions/answers are greatly appreciated in helping me make a decision. Thanks!
Everythink is almost identical between the two except that the Fuze doesn't have the front camera and ATT customized it the way they wanted. They both support A2DP and Windows Live will get you Hotmail.
ok wow.. theyre exactly the same; except for one important aspect; the touch pro wont work on at&t 3G. there are other small cosmetic differences, and a different keyboard layout. yes the software is different, but thats not an issue, as u can flash any rom u want. in conclusion, get the fuze if u want to US 3G. do a google search next time please, these questions have been answered multiple times
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Everythink is almost identical between the two except that the Fuze doesn't have the front camera and ATT customized it the way they wanted. They both support A2DP and Windows Live will get you Hotmail.
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Thanks for the info. I don't want to get my email via the web, which is why I asked. I want to be able to set it up the same way you can with yahoo or gmail.
Do you know if the Fuze has a "flash" for the camera. It isn't listed anywhere and I can't tell from any of the pictures.
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Thanks for the info. I don't want to get my email via the web, which is why I asked. I want to be able to set it up the same way you can with yahoo or gmail.
Do you know if the Fuze has a "flash" for the camera. It isn't listed anywhere and I can't tell from any of the pictures.
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Yes, it does have a flash.
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ok wow.. theyre exactly the same; except for one important aspect; the touch pro wont work on at&t 3G. there are other small cosmetic differences, and a different keyboard layout. yes the software is different, but thats not an issue, as u can flash any rom u want. in conclusion, get the fuze if u want to US 3G. do a google search next time please, these questions have been answered multiple times
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I was hoping to not have to flash a rom to my phone this time. I guess no one will ever make a phone I'll be completely happy with right out of the box!
The answer to the 3G question pretty much made my decision then...
I've searched and seen this discussed about a few other phones, but it doesn't look like there's been any luck with any HTC GSM phone, but I thought I would pose the question to see if anyone can figure it out.
As you may know, AT&T uses the AMR-HR (Half-Rate) codec in some areas with Edge, which can sound like crap in low service areas.
It would be really useful, and probably make a lot of people happy, if there was a way to force this phone to use the AMR-FR (Full-Rate) codec.
Most devices this is a simple bitmask, this is one of the things on my list for WinMo devices, so far in the several I have messed with I haven't figured it out.
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Most devices this is a simple bitmask, this is one of the things on my list for WinMo devices, so far in the several I have messed with I haven't figured it out.
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Its good to know that someone is looking into it
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Most devices this is a simple bitmask, this is one of the things on my list for WinMo devices, so far in the several I have messed with I haven't figured it out.
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Any updates on this?
I would be extremely happy if you figured it out and it improved my call quality. I would definitely throw some money your way!
I've identified several possibilities, but what I haven't found is how to identify the current codec in use. I need a reliable, repeatable way to do that before I can start flipping bits, my ear isn't reliable enough
You can use FieldTest
Go to the 2nd group (AMR).
Minimize that, then make a call.
Then go back into FieldTest (while still connected to the call), mine shows AMR-HR (I don't know what it shows for FR since I'm not in an area that supports it, but I'm guessing AMR-FR).
Doh, i'm a bonehead! I never switched to GSM when I checked there, so it was never reporting any values at all, being in WCDMA.. awesome, let's get this party started
Woohoo, can't wait!!!
I didn't see any news about this here so... It seams like HTC has released an update for the AT&T Fuze. According to the HTC Support site, here's what's included:
Microsoft's Windows Mobile Adaptation Kit Update (AKU) 1.4.6
Slide to Answer
Push To Talk Button is now re-assignable
FM Radio Application
Enhanced MS Voice Command
Call waiting indicator is now audible when using Speakerphone
HTC Music player supports Album art/info
Improved TouchFlo3D (TF3D) and User Interface performance
A-GPS Update: Speeds up the time it takes the GPS to get a fix on your location
Quick GPS is still recommended for the optimal operation of GPS based applications and services
The update can be found here.
But... what does it take to actually download it? I have a 3-month old Fuze in the US, but when I plug in my S/N - it says that it isn't for my Fuze?
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But... what does it take to actually download it? I have a 3-month old Fuze in the US, but when I plug in my S/N - it says that it isn't for my Fuze?
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I have the same issue. Tried it twice. Any ideas?
Same here. I just got through sending HTC an email about it. My fuze is only about 2 weeks old.
Same Problem -
"Sorry, this software download is not suitable for your device."
The phone is less than a year old and it makes me want to reach for an iPhone.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=519698
Looks like someone called HTC and was told it would not be up until 12:01 EST. however it is after that now. Guess I will try again after midnight pacific.
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"Sorry, this software download is not suitable for your device."
The phone is less than a year old and it makes me want to reach for an iPhone.
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It's obvious you're a closet IPhone lover. Quit denying yourself the pleasure of not having to post here ever again.... Go buy an Iphone... go go go go!
just a question
i jst updated my rom with a rom from this site will this new rom from htc work? and will it return my phone back to the factory settings? cuz this new rom from raphael the fuzeberry is awsome
Still saying not for my device
Oh well, hopefully later today
This is the response I got from HTC.
"Hello Shannon, Thank you for your inquiry about the HTC Fuze. We would be happy to assist you with that information. However, we are experiencing an issue in the download of the update for the Fuze. We are aware of the issues and do apologize for the inconveniences. We are working on getting the issue resolved at the current time. We do ask that you allow 24 hrs and then retry to download the software. If after the 24 hr period you are still experiencing issues in downloading the software then please let us know. Again we do apologize for the inconveniences and appreciate your patience in resolving this issue. Shannon, I hope we have answered your question in detail. Feel free to contact us again if you have any further questions. HTC Technical Support http://www.htc.com http://www.htcwiki.com."
Can't download Official ROM either
I have a FUZE I purchased in February, same issue with not accepting my S/N. I know I will be a candidate for the new ROM so hopefully, the issue as described above from HTC support will prove to be accurate and we can download in a relative short time. I am really excited to try this new Official ROM as I am not comfortable flashing the ROM's that are available otherwise. I just don't have enough technical background to feel like I can do it without the real risk of bricking my FUZE.
HTC Fuze support site is down...
For now, they are probably fixing the issue with the S/N error because the support sub-site for the HTC Fuze is down.
why would you guys want a rom that weve had the updates for months? and 6.5 is already working great for us plus without all the att junk?
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why would you guys want a rom that weve had the updates for months? and 6.5 is already working great for us plus without all the att junk?
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I concur! There really is no reason to downgrade to this rom....
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I concur! There really is no reason to downgrade to this rom....
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It could have some updated drivers and it looks like it has a new radio in it. That's the main benefit of getting this.
I wouldn't downgrade to 6.1, even if it has "new stuff"....won't take the cooks very long to extract any new stuff, and add it to the 6.5 roms
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It could have some updated drivers and it looks like it has a new radio in it. That's the main benefit of getting this.
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I wouldn't downgrade to 6.1, even if it has "new stuff"....won't take the cooks very long to extract any new stuff, and add it to the 6.5 roms
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I agree, that's what I meant by my post...once someone gets their hands on it and can extract the goodies
Well, this ROM is appreciated regardless
I think custom ROMs are sweet, and I am a big fan of 6.5. But, I personally kinda like official releases, despite 6.1 and the AT&T crapware. I'll probably end up installing a 6.5 rom anyway if AT&T doesn't make one, or if AT&T's really sucks. Besides, I am overloaded with MS betas on my PC and phone.
Does anyone know when it will be downloadable again? The link seems to be down again or is there another place to find it?
If this allows the MS voice command to say the name of the caller, then I'm all for this update.
I am a die hard WM user - never used any other OS. Was awaiting WP7 for months!
It is a dumb blonde! Pretty, but useless.
1. Keyboard is good, but no option to longpress for numbers
2. Phone dialler - no option to dial name of contact on phone dialler
3. Can't search calendar for specific appointments
4. Office hub is useless - can't organize in folder, ending up with loooong list of documents.
5. Word mobile is hopeless for formatting compared to WM6.5
6. Adobe PDF documents - can't be organized in folders. Can't even rename files
7. No video calling
8. The stupidest thing: Can't transfer files from PC to phone. What the ^$%^$ !
I have to go to Dropbox every time!
Buy an android phone lol
6.5
Stay with a WM 6.5 device. I kept my FUZE but after some time with the Focus would NEVER use it or any other WM device again. I felt a lot like you do at first, but that quickly wore off the more I used WP7. If you already bought it and feel the way you do, sell it and get something else. I used to see a lot of rants like this months ago but see almost no posts like yours recently. I think you should have posted this months ago, you might have found some allies, but not today.
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Stay with a WM 6.5 device. I kept my FUZE but after some time with the Focus would NEVER use it or any other WM device again. I felt a lot like you do at first, but that quickly wore off the more I used WP7. If you already bought it and feel the way you do, sell it and get something else. I used to see a lot of rants like this months ago but see almost no posts like yours recently. I think you should have posted this months ago, you might have found some allies, but not today.
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Well said. I was going to say pretty much the same thing. I struggled going from WM to WP at first (I still miss swype dearly) but after a few days of WP7 I could never go back despite some shortcomings.
Goodbye 6.5
The things I thought I could not live without in WM6.5 have turned out to be silly. I don't know why I felt that way. Anyway, many apps I used on 6.5 are now available on WP7, and more coming daily. The news of the potential features in Mango take away many if not most of my concerns.
I think we need to remember that WP7 is very young still, iOS didn't have copy and paste also when it came out... Give it a year or so I'm sure WP7 will be up there.
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My grouse is that WM 6.5 had so many features that have been stripped down to the point that WP7 is inconvenient. Why strip down Office to a bare minimum? Why remove the smart dialler in the phone? Why remove the long press for numbers in the keyboard? Why no USB functionality? Moreover, there are inconsistencies within WP7 itself. Why no voice GPS? E.g., why no search option in calendar? Why no zune support for synching data files? Why no wifi tethering?
I am not comparing WP7 to other OS. I am comparing it with Microsoft's own previous product. 6.5 to 7 is meant to be an upgrade, but it is actually a downgrade.
Why deliver a stripped down product when the previous product (6.5) had all these? And now, they have to catch up with "updates" with all the attendant bad publicity, and poor sales.
They had 3 years to get it right. They had at least 8 months in the beta testing when people clamored for copy-paste.
Stupid clowns.
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My grouse is that WM 6.5 had so many features that have been stripped down to the point that WP7 is inconvenient.
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Agreed.
Why remove the smart dialer in the phone? Why remove the long press for numbers in the keyboard? Why no USB functionality?
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Agreed.
Why no Zune support for synching data files?
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Agreed.
Why no wifi tethering?
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That is a biggie, agreed. And let us not forget custom ring tones (sure you can sideload, but really MS screwed the pooch here).
I am not comparing WP7 to other OS. I am comparing it with Microsoft's own previous product. 6.5 to 7 is meant to be an upgrade, but it is actually a downgrade.
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In some important ways it is a downgrade, in other ways it is an upgrade. All in all WP7 may be better due to newer/faster hardware, yet the FAIL of lackluster Bluetooth integration, no rSAP, no custom ring tones, no way to sync files easily, no wireless tethering, etc, etc and yes etc is really a let down. MS always seem to go three steps forward and two steps back, then perhaps release ONE of the two 'lost' steps like it is a huge improvement and technology advancement. If MS does not get their act together and release what many consider normal features, the Android market will leave MS in the dust.
MS can do much better, so what is keeping them from reaching some simple goals every other major phone OS has been doing for many years (including MS' 6.x)? THAT is the real question.
I think the worst thing is the wifi sleep issue that no one can seem to find a fix for. I bought one a week ago and its been sitting in the box while I use my desire. I just can't use it properly without having the option to leave wifi on
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I think the worst thing is the wifi sleep issue that no one can seem to find a fix for. I bought one a week ago and its been sitting in the box while I use my desire. I just can't use it properly without having the option to leave wifi on
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I agree 100%. This issue and another big Wi-Fi issue are the bane of my existence on WP7. Anyone have trouble connecting to different Wi-Fi networks? This is by far the biggest nuisance I deal with. What I mean by this is, for example: I am at work all day connected to the office Wi-Fi. I come home and my Quantum refuses to connect to my home network. It tries to connect for about 15 seconds or so, then eventually gives up. The only way to get it behaving properly is to reboot the phone. Turning Wi-Fi off then back on, disassociating with all remembered networks, etc. all do nothing. Don't know if this is unique to me because there is just something specific about the networks I am connecting to that creates "The Perfect Storm" and throws the Wi-Fi off, or if this is a widespread problem. Either way, I can't wait until it is resolved.
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I agree 100%. This issue and another big Wi-Fi issue are the bane of my existence on WP7. Anyone have trouble connecting to different Wi-Fi networks? This is by far the biggest nuisance I deal with. What I mean by this is, for example: I am at work all day connected to the office Wi-Fi. I come home and my Quantum refuses to connect to my home network. It tries to connect for about 15 seconds or so, then eventually gives up. The only way to get it behaving properly is to reboot the phone. Turning Wi-Fi off then back on, disassociating with all remembered networks, etc. all do nothing. Don't know if this is unique to me because there is just something specific about the networks I am connecting to that creates "The Perfect Storm" and throws the Wi-Fi off, or if this is a widespread problem. Either way, I can't wait until it is resolved.
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I don't get this issue at all mate, i pretty much do the same - connect to a network at work, then go home, it automatically connects fine for me at either location. I also connect to Wifi networks at my parents and GF's mum's and it connects flawlessly to either one without any hassle.
Though i must admit, the ability to keep wireless on even when the phone goes to sleep is a must! It will however stay on if you plug the phone into its charger, though not always convenient.
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I agree 100%. This issue and another big Wi-Fi issue are the bane of my existence on WP7. Anyone have trouble connecting to different Wi-Fi networks? This is by far the biggest nuisance I deal with. What I mean by this is, for example: I am at work all day connected to the office Wi-Fi. I come home and my Quantum refuses to connect to my home network. It tries to connect for about 15 seconds or so, then eventually gives up. The only way to get it behaving properly is to reboot the phone. Turning Wi-Fi off then back on, disassociating with all remembered networks, etc. all do nothing. Don't know if this is unique to me because there is just something specific about the networks I am connecting to that creates "The Perfect Storm" and throws the Wi-Fi off, or if this is a widespread problem. Either way, I can't wait until it is resolved.
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I don't get this issue either except on my nook and I think my wireless router @ that location is the issue (pretty sure of it). The WPA only a select few ip addresses on certain mac addresses for some reason so if the address is taken by another device it doesn't connect I thought my router was smart guess I was wrong but once I forget the network and then reapply the security settings it connects, I have no problem with my other router.
After purchasing an Acer Iconia a500 , I realized that it isnt just WP7 users who whine and complain about the latest upgrades , its tech wide ! I mean some of the gripes you have are laudible ,but in the long run 6.5 is done , so if you long for that experience it wont last , sure theres still some people using Windows 98 , XP , but at some point it becomes so outdated it becomes useless, you will find wm 6.5 fits this category , sometimes you have to go back to go forward and that is the case with WP7 !
Trust me the "copy paste" function is useless , I havent even used it yet (or missed not having it) , As I said I have a tablet with Honeycomb on it , its really irratating hearing all the babies crying about updates , the damn OS has been out for a month and these crybabies are whining "it doesnt do this ,it doesnt do that" , the thing is like most devices that are new it will not have certain things right off the bat , yes the device can be rooted a plus , but somethings cant be changed yet , just like the missing api's wp7 , that stuff will come , theres so many talented people in XDA , JUST RELAX AND ENJOY THE RIDE!,
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After purchasing an Acer Iconia a500 , I realized that it isnt just WP7 users who whine and complain about the latest upgrades , its tech wide ! I mean some of the gripes you have are laudible ,but in the long run 6.5 is done , so if you long for that experience it wont last , sure theres still some people using Windows 98 , XP , but at some point it becomes so outdated it becomes useless, you will find wm 6.5 fits this category , sometimes you have to go back to go forward and that is the case with WP7 !
Trust me the "copy paste" function is useless , I havent even used it yet (or missed not having it) , As I said I have a tablet with Honeycomb on it , its really irratating hearing all the babies crying about updates , the damn OS has been out for a month and these crybabies are whining "it doesnt do this ,it doesnt do that" , the thing is like most devices that are new it will not have certain things right off the bat , yes the device can be rooted a plus , but somethings cant be changed yet , just like the missing api's wp7 , that stuff will come , theres so many talented people in XDA , JUST RELAX AND ENJOY THE RIDE!,
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Cease with this being reasonable and level-headed immediately! If you continue with this behavior, I will report you to the Mods and request your immediate removal and ban! How can we be expected to have every thread ruined with incessant back and forth bickering, passive aggressive flaming, and pathetic trolling if behavior like yours is allowed to continue on this forum?
ehh this is why i never liked windows 7
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Buy an android phone lol
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how about you post something useful..
This guy has a lot of good points.
" OFFICE HUB"
is a joke
microsoft word is such a pain to use that formatting within the document is impossible!!
there is no way to save formatting. so If I need to write everything in red. I have to hit format every single time and then select an option. that along with the keyboard taking up the entire length of the document.
BLEH!
adobe reader is the slowest pdf viewer ive ever used!!! and i remember using an 8125 and reading pdfs on it..
The wifi issues are a pain!! they are so the carrier can force us to use there data plan. I want to use WIFI why did i buy the phone with wifi capabilities if it wont even stay on!!
The contacts are again a pain to search through.
there is no way to delete lines within a conversation..
Or Deleting multiple text messages.
Microsoft is really falling short on this one.
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After purchasing an Acer Iconia a500 , I realized that it isnt just WP7 users who whine and complain about the latest upgrades , its tech wide ! I mean some of the gripes you have are laudible ,but in the long run 6.5 is done , so if you long for that experience it wont last , sure theres still some people using Windows 98 , XP , but at some point it becomes so outdated it becomes useless, you will find wm 6.5 fits this category , sometimes you have to go back to go forward and that is the case with WP7 !
Trust me the "copy paste" function is useless , I havent even used it yet (or missed not having it) , As I said I have a tablet with Honeycomb on it , its really irratating hearing all the babies crying about updates , the damn OS has been out for a month and these crybabies are whining "it doesnt do this ,it doesnt do that" , the thing is like most devices that are new it will not have certain things right off the bat , yes the device can be rooted a plus , but somethings cant be changed yet , just like the missing api's wp7 , that stuff will come , theres so many talented people in XDA , JUST RELAX AND ENJOY THE RIDE!,
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this has nothing to do with XDA.....
this has to do with Microsoft developing a poor operating software for my 499.99$ phone. This is a rant about the missing features that are obvious to a smart phone and you are saying relaxing dont worry.. this is what i purchased the phone for and it is severely lacking in a lot of areas.
professorwol said:
this has nothing to do with XDA.....
this has to do with Microsoft developing a poor operating software for my 499.99$ phone. This is a rant about the missing features that are obvious to a smart phone and you are saying relaxing dont worry.. this is what i purchased the phone for and it is severely lacking in a lot of areas.
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If you were missinformed of what WP7 was and could do at the time of your purchase, its your own fault... grab your 499.99$ and take it back, problem solved.
professorwol said:
this has nothing to do with XDA.....
this has to do with Microsoft developing a poor operating software for my 499.99$ phone. This is a rant about the missing features that are obvious to a smart phone and you are saying relaxing dont worry.. this is what i purchased the phone for and it is severely lacking in a lot of areas.
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I find it pretty funny people moaning about the lack of features WP7 has and how great Android and IOS are.
I had Android from the very start when hardly anyone knew what it was and i had that brick of a phone (although i quite liked it lol) called the G1.
Android was released on 1.0 software however i thought it was a practical joke no lie the battery would last 5 hours if you was lucky and the phone would heat up like a microwave oven besides the various other bugs etc including freezing up completely. It took Google 5 updates until we got the first named update "Cupcake" 1.5 before android was even half usable and had copy & paste etc. And to be honest it should of started on 1.5 so my G1 only got 1 decent update to 1.6.
Its the same with all the other android phones i have had the SE X10 did go from 1.6 to 2.3 only because legions of p*ssed off people including myself moaned at sony like there was no tomorrow when they said it would only get 2.1 (i think).
Etc Etc the point it Android is way too fragmented and buying a Android phone is like entering a lottery with regards to updates and added features etc.
Same with Apple it took them at least a year to add even copy & paste not too mention all the other stuff that was missing like MMS & Adobe Flash (ah yeah still ain't got that one).
Microsoft have given us a much better OS than both Google or Apple right off the bat and the amount of added features Mango is bringing is pretty amazing adding more stuff than 1 or 2 major android updates and even getting so things in the first year of WP7 that iPhone hasn't got after 5 years.