I haven't seen anyone come up with a good description of what emoze does yet, so I thought I'd contribute my own, and compare it to web2mail. emoze is in fact much more than just a pushmail service, it constantly is updating all aspects of Outlook (email, calender, tasks, ect). Changes occur almost instantaneously (<5 seconds via EDGE, i've timed it). Delete an email of your PPC, it deletes off of your computer. Change a meeting time on your computer, it changes instantly on your PPC. Everything remains in perfect sync at all times, as long as you have an internet connection on both ends. To reduce battery drain, you can switch to a periodic sync (every so many minutes), but obviously changes and email won't show up as fast then. Regular pop email pisses me off because there's no good way to reply to email you recieved through activesync. Emoze solves this. The only other way I know of to get this sort of service is to be a large business with a big, expensive MS Exchange server. If you manage your life with Outlook like I do, I highly reccomend this software. It works right out of the box (even though there's no box nowdays), just install the desktop PC software, install the PPC software, and it goes.
mail2web has most of the same features, with a few significant difference. It has better attatchment size (100mb) versus emoze's 1mb limit. However, the kicker for me is that you must use a mail2web email address ([email protected]), along with mail2web's desktop email client, to utilize mail2web. Emoze lets you keep your current email address, and your current desktop email client, giving you nothing to relearn, and better protection if emoze/web2mail were to go bankrupt and disappear overnight. Unfortunately, Emoze doesn't support all email clients, although they're working on it, so mail2web might be the way to go if you're running, say, lotus domino. I haven't actually used mail2web, so if I missed any advantages they might have, feel free to post.
Both services are free, so go ahead and try 'em. I have yet to recieve any spam from emoze. Don't know about mail2web though.
Emoze: http://www.emoze.com/en/HomePage.html
mail2web: http://services.mail2web.com/FreeServices/m2wLive/
odd first post wonder who he works for :lol:
the main reason I am using Mail2web and not emoze is because mail2web does not require me to have my own PC on 24/7 nor installing any client on my PC. Peace out
Trucido said:
the main reason I am using Mail2web and not emoze is because mail2web does not require me to have my own PC on 24/7 nor installing any client on my PC. Peace out
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Good point. That's a big plus for mail2web. Do you know some way to reply to your mail that makes it seem like you're using your normal email instead of a mail2web email address? I'd definitely switch if I could figure out a good way to do that.
You can do that, but you have to pay for it. That's how they get you to pay them.
does emoze support html mail? free mail2web accounts don't, because they have only exchange server 2003 running.
emoze has a pc client (outlook plugin?) which syncs over internet with the mobile version of emoze on my ppc? this is an advantage and a disadvantage:
the disadvantage has been mentioned - the pc has to run all the time.
but on the other side you are able to sync your mobile and your pc over air.
with free mail2web accounts you can only sync your ppc with the exchange server.
the mail2web email address is not really bad: within the settings of my usual mail account (arcor) i added a filter, which redirects a copy of every incoming mail to my mail2web account. that is not the finest solution, but better than nothing.
emoze battery issues vs mail2web activesync
i had emoze on my hp 6965 and on my htc x7500 and it works very nicely
the only few problems ive had is battery dies within 4-5 hours if the sync is allways on
also if you have pictures associated with your contacts it dosent transfer them back and forth i found, mail2web has no problem doing this
it really was nice to be able to push gmail over the air and have my desktop and ppc synced at the same time but if your pc looses connection ur off the air until you get to it and fix it.
mail2web is great since it keeps your battery life very long (i can have it on all day with about 2 hrs of talktime and about 20-30 emails a day) and still have about 30% left by the time i get home or to my car to charge it again,
but when you reply to messeges it dosent use the gmail address, which sux badly since i want it to use gmail,
the advanteges are you can hard reset your device and not worry about your info being lost or having to get home and save it its just allways on the server, which i like knowing all my data is safe,
ive looked into several other programs like pusheffect and i just couldent get it going so i uninstalled it,
the only other programs i found recently is the seven beta program, i downloaded it to my device and installed it even tho it says wm5 only supported, i had no problems running it on my wm6 unit, it works like a charm
and i get both my gmails, and my work email on it
my current setup is mail2web synced with activesync on my x7500 and seven for my gmails and work email,
also, the seven beta program does not notify you once an email comes in with any audio or the messege icon, it just shows
" [email protected] 1 unread"
so you have to keep looking at your unit from time to time to see if you have email,
push works great, alltho it seems like from time it takes it about 5 min's to get a messege,
I have frequent problems with mail2web
I have all mail forwarded to my gmail, then I have gmail forward everything to mail2web. Gmail frequently reports bounced messages sent to m2w. I'm going to try emoze. I suspect it will be a lot better. Since I have two machines (media server and tor box) on all the time anyway, that's no big deal for me, but there are other advantages to doing so.
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the only other programs i found recently is the seven beta program, i downloaded it to my device and installed it even tho it says wm5 only supported, i had no problems running it on my wm6 unit, it works like a charm
and i get both my gmails, and my work email on it
my current setup is mail2web synced with activesync on my x7500 and seven for my gmails and work email,
also, the seven beta program does not notify you once an email comes in with any audio or the messege icon, it just shows
" [email protected] 1 unread"
so you have to keep looking at your unit from time to time to see if you have email,
push works great, alltho it seems like from time it takes it about 5 min's to get a messege,
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Thanks for the heads up for the Seven Beta, just signed up and have now stopped forwarding my gmail to my mail2web account, they can now function as two separate items with push on both. As for seven not notifying me when new mail arrives, i can live with that.
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Just sent a test email to both accounts, mail2web won by 1 minute and the PPC went beep for each message
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You can do that, but you have to pay for it. That's how they get you to pay them.
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Could you elaborate on this? I don't mind paying, but how would I set it up?
Hello,
I have problem with my email. I have set up my gmail account on the phone and it works ok. I connect through wifi and for the moment i don't have a data plan.
The problem is with my old emails that disappear when i connect and receive new messages. After that i can only see the new emails.
Is any setting that I've done it wrong or what ? Maybe the emails are moved somewhere else ?
Thank you,
Use IMAP4, it's way better... (and is free to use with google) if you want to know why: [link]
Also you can set how recent can the messages be that will be downloaded...
eg.: download messages from the past 7 days... can be set up to all your messages....
It can be configured in the email setup wizard the first time you setup the email account, or you can re-run the wizard from the Menu -> Tools -> Option -> [gmail account name] menu...
Page 122 of the printed manual...
After i have opened this thread i have done that, but now there is another problem. The emails that i open on the phone aren't downloaded into my outlook on the desktop pc. And if i use pop3 on the phone it doesn't matter if i read them or not, i still can download them on the desktop.
You can use both protocols simultaneusly...
Also you can force the gmail account to download mails... [link]
But, here is how I use my gmail, outlook, PDA...
My outlook is only for storing contacs, and calendar events (as a backup, and for easier editing)
Gmail syncs my mail via IMAP on my PDA (no need for storing mails on PC as Gmail has almost 7GB space for storing mail and attachments, and with IMAP the status of the email is snyced as well...)
This way I can read my mail, and reply on the spot, but if something more complex is needed (like formatting or several attachements then the web based gmail is just as good as the outlook...)
Of course I have a Data Plan...
ok, i think i got it thank you.
As for a data plan i have a good offer from orange. 5 mb/month for 5.95 euro and 1.19 euro for each additional 10 mb. So it's quite cheap, but i have wifi at home, at my office and in many other places that i go.
When i don't have wifi acces it means that i'm on my free time or holyday so i don't need the email.
my polaris generates a 200-250 MB/month traffic... I have a 5GB data plan for 22 EUR
btw, i have the RSS HUB and some other programs running constantly, so it's no wonder...
that's nice, i mean the price for the data plan, but i don't need that much traffic. In fact i don't need even 200 mb.
If i calculate correctly my traffic on the phone is roughly 40 mb/month just for emails, and no more than 10 mb for weather and some internet.
LE: In the other post i said 5 mb/month for 5.95, but it's wrong, 30 mb/month for 5.95 and 1.19 euro for each additional 10 mb is correct. but even like this your data plan is much cheaper.
Sound better that way (30MB for 6 EUR)... but why calculate?
If you got an original Polaris (not O2), then the SPB GPRS Monitor is bundled on one of the CDs...
Sadly I need that much traffic... Using WMWifiRouter between 4-5 PCs can cause some nasty thing if you're not prepaired...
I understand, you use your data plan from vodafone to give internet to other computers. I have diffrent internet providers at home and at the office which both have unlimited traffic at very hi speed with about 10 euro/month.
I calculated because that is a gprs monitor and i don't have gprs...i calculated just as an estimation of what i would use if i would have gprs.
Just was wondering have anyone else also problems with synchronising notes with outlook. Maybe one time out of 50 I get the Pro synchronised with outlook but mostly I get ether a message that attendance required or just plain error. And of course the microsoft synchronisation program is one of the worst programs I have ever seen from user friendliness. When I bought this phone I had to transfer contacts and everything else from the old phone at least twice because during the first synchronisation periods I either got all contacts double or they disappeared next time same with calendar and tasks. Very confusing is also the frase keep in device or keep in desktop all the time confusing where the hell will the notes or else will be left.
But as I understand there is no alternative either.
Hi Guys
if this has been answered elsewhere i do apologise.. i'm working a 12 hour shift and i'm bloody knackered..
anyway i have 2 questions
1. when Hotmail is selected for the email app (it automatically goes through to use windows live) it only seems to download the last 50 emails on the account.... is there a way of changing this?
2. When i used PIM backup (I other email accounts setup which i backed up) it only seemed to backup my email headers but not the full email itself any ideas on that one? i restore them but it be pretty pointless as it shows non of the email.. .
and thirdly.. (yea ok 3 questions.. did i mention i was tired?)
today i upgraded to Dutty's Ultimate HG 2.5 WWE and i could previously setup my Hotmail account via the "other Account" option to allow more flexibility in handling my emails.. is there a way of me to stop the email client to not even bother using Windows Live as it's options are pretty crap.
Ta very much
ok the 50 email limit i've found out is Microsoft imposed.. grrrrr... however then i need to try and setup my email manually to use outlook settings instead of it using windows Live.. any ideas?
oh my god.. i'm stupid.. apologies.. i've sorted it now.. i blame the tiredness again..
Ok that's sorted just an issue with the PIM stuff..
Pim backup email headers only
Please Help,
Pim backup will only restore email headers only. How do I get round this? Its driving me mad?
Thanks
MSG500
I use Outlook 2007 on my pc and I have my work week configured to a 7 day week and my work day to start at 8 AM and end at 8 PM. However, when I sync my phone with my pc, the calendar work week settings that I modified in my pc’s Outlook 2007 are not translated to my phone’s outlook calendar. The default settings remain the same: Monday to Friday and 8 AM to 5 PM. It might not seem a big deal, but I find it visually annoying. I’ve tried to change the settings directly on my phone, but I haven’t found an option that allows that. Is there a way to configure my phone’s calendar work week the way I want, or at least change the colour of the free time hours to white?
Thanks.