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O2 English --> O2 Trad. Chinese successful

I have successfully flashed an O2 english machine into a traditional chinese one. I just wanted to point couple things out that slowed me down during upgrading:
1) if your ntrw shows something like "usage... etc" that means you have an incorrect version. Please download version 2.0
2) when replacing the information in the hex editor, you do not have to highlight the part to be replaced, just click once to the beginning of the header, then click paste, it'll replace by itself. I tried to highlight the part to be replaced and delete and paste again.. etc with no luck. Remember it has to look like the original, 3-4 lines of 00 then ff ff.. etc, if you did it wrong it will only have the ff ff parts right after the 416 bytes (this worked for me)
3) when putting in the SD card, it does not necessarily give you the prompt to flash in several seconds, i've seen it pop up after several minutes, so give it some time and not panic
Those were just some of my experiences that I thought could be amended to the procedures to clarify some things, because one would have to dig through many topics to find the above solutions as I did (which i don't understand why the authors won't edit their procedures to make it perfect).
Anyhow, I have one final question. I read the thread on how to remove T-mobile's customizations somewhere, but how do I remove O2's cusomization? If I can figure this out I'll make my O2 w/ dopod rom into an O2 trad. chinese rom. Thnx

Here's another thing I wanted to ask, when I change the rom and flahs w/ the cht.xxx file from ftp (the O2 rom) does it include the ext roms? Or should I d/l them cab by cab and install separately? Or does this need to be unlocked like some other threads say?

dragonone said:
Here's another thing I wanted to ask, when I change the rom and flahs w/ the cht.xxx file from ftp (the O2 rom) does it include the ext roms? Or should I d/l them cab by cab and install separately? Or does this need to be unlocked like some other threads say?
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What brand and size of SD card had you used?

i used the lexar 256mb bundled w/ my o2
i've also used panasonic high speed pro 512mb on another machine
but i don't know how that relates to my ques~

yipfu said:
dragonone said:
Here's another thing I wanted to ask, when I change the rom and flahs w/ the cht.xxx file from ftp (the O2 rom) does it include the ext roms? Or should I d/l them cab by cab and install separately? Or does this need to be unlocked like some other threads say?
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What brand and size of SD card had you used?
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Ext & radio rom is included. :lol:

SD image WM5 CHS version, not work for all device yet

the last post tells you the detail

THANX
buzz

Thanks for reply.
Hope for good news

Can't replace wince.nls
I have a Win Mobile Phone Edition 5, very first one in U.S.
I tried to load chinese so that I can read chinese. I copy over font file and am able to see Chinese in Word, providing that I select options.
However I got issues with IE, because I there is no option for me to change the encoding.
I learned that I need to change wince.nls file. And I downloaded your file. Now I got an issue "Access Denied" message when I try to override original wince.nls. Looks like it was in ROM.
Any idea?
Thanks

you should use another file explorer other than the system's one, and then you can overwrite it
the tool is in the attachment(it's in chinese language), it's a green software

The attribute is grayed out.
Thanks for your prompt response and the program.
maybe i did not use it right, some how the menu of the program is mess up. see the attached.
I have Resco Explorer 2005, which also show wince.nls is in rom. Every time I change the other attributes, it changes back when I re-open property page.
While I have a pocket PC 2003 Dell x3. The wince.nls is not rom file.
Can I override rom file?
It is about mid night here in U.S. I will check back first thing in the morning, just in case you do not get response from me right away.
Again, thanks for your help.

on wm2003 it was possible to "override" files in ROM.
Now it is not.
You have to wait until we'll be able to decompress the ROM and inject your wince.nls into ROM.
buzz

ok, i've downloaded your chinese.rar to test-it ...
i've replaced the wince.nls with this procedure
in \windows\ , i've renamed wince.nls to wince5.nls
got an error message "Can't delete wince.nls" , but it's renamed
Copy the new wince.nls to \windows\
Copy fonts to \windows\fonts\
import reg file ... modified
soft-reset
...
Anything appears ...
i'm not able to choose chinese in regional settings
In the registry , after soft-resest , nls automaticly set to "0409"
if i set to 0804 and soft-reset , poof .... 0409
I think there is another problem

OK, I will wait.
One another thing I noticed: through ActiveSync, I can create a folder in windows, (well, as you expect). But I can't copy the wince.nls file to even the newly created folder, not just windows folder. On my PC, the message saying... no space or no permission, etc. I do have like 3-4mb left in main storage and install other program.
Just for your infomation.

it is easily possible to copy wince.nls to your \Windows folder. Just create a cab for it.
But it is not taken into system... That;s the problem here...
Will look at it further...
buzz

I'm success to copy it in my himalaya. I had tried several method, one of them is o.k. but not sure is this one or not.
1) copy the wince.nls to somewhere in your SD Card.
2) Boot your Himalaya into Safe Mode.
3) Then copy the wince.nls to your Himalaya's \windows\
4) Soft Reset.

Do you mean that you can choose the Chinese region now?

Re: The attribute is grayed out.
zoneu said:
Thanks for your prompt response and the program.
maybe i did not use it right, some how the menu of the program is mess up. see the attached.
I have Resco Explorer 2005, which also show wince.nls is in rom. Every time I change the other attributes, it changes back when I re-open property page.
While I have a pocket PC 2003 Dell x3. The wince.nls is not rom file.
Can I override rom file?
It is about mid night here in U.S. I will check back first thing in the morning, just in case you do not get response from me right away.
Again, thanks for your help.
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see the menu in the attached

buzz_lightyear said:
on wm2003 it was possible to "override" files in ROM.
Now it is not.
You have to wait until we'll be able to decompress the ROM and inject your wince.nls into ROM.
buzz
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Waiting for your good news ...

only 1.60b could be chineselization
I had tried to replace wince.nls in WM2K5_160C_WWE in various ways mentioned in xda-dev forum. none of them could be finished this job.
so i had to refresh my rom to 1.60b, everything is OK now. I can override the wince.nls, import *.reg, set regional to PRChina and so on.

expecting a perfect WM2K5_160C supproting Simple Chinese.

mazinka said:
I'm success to copy it in my himalaya. I had tried several method, one of them is o.k. but not sure is this one or not.
1) copy the wince.nls to somewhere in your SD Card.
2) Boot your Himalaya into Safe Mode.
3) Then copy the wince.nls to your Himalaya's \windows\
4) Soft Reset.
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How do u manage to boot ur Himalaya into Safe Mode? Pardon me of becoming a dumbo.

WM5 CHS version SD image
Hi buzz:
I have got a SD image from a Himalaya which rom is CHS version, it's backup from a friend of mine. He got it from the seviece center. but when i use this image to flash my himalya, i replaced the SD head, write it to my SD card and flash...finished, hard reset, and I got an error like this:
"Device authentication failure. Please contact the product manufacture. For reference, please provide your device ID.
xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx"
Then I found a way to convert the SD image to a .nbf file for the xda-developers site. converted and flashed using the PC through cable, but the same "Device authentication failure..." error occucred again.
And then, I asked my friend flash the SD image to his device which the image came from. succeeded
!
Any way to make the rom work for my device? help pls...
ljm2020
2005/11/16

Re: WM5 CHS version SD image
ljm2020 said:
Hi buzz:
I have got a SD image from a Himalaya which rom is CHS version, it's backup from a friend of mine. He got it from the seviece center. but when i use this image to flash my himalya, i replaced the SD head, write it to my SD card and flash...finished, hard reset, and I got an error like this:
"Device authentication failure. Please contact the product manufacture. For reference, please provide your device ID.
5083252100381951 38000050bf3f5173"
Then I found a way to convert the SD image to a .nbf file for the xda-developers site. converted and flashed using the PC through cable, but the same "Device authentication failure..." error occucred again.
And then, I asked my friend flash the SD image to his device which the image came from. succeeded
!
Any way to make the rom work for my device? help pls...
ljm2020
2005/11/16
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hi ljm,
i already answered to you on buzzdev.net )
buzz

Telstra O2 XDA mini(Limited)

How do you change the Telstra System of my xda mini to an O2 system?
When I do a soft or hard reset a Telstra logo appears on the screen.
Would there ba a problem with this? I this even possible?
Sorry NEWBIE asking sirs!

The splash screen is changed easily to anything you like, just follow the sticky on the board. Changing your mini to O2 requires the O2 ext-rom files to 'brand' it. Visit the ftp ftp:\\xda:[email protected] for the ext-rom files. Best is to skip your current ext-rom (hard-reset, finish the initialization & just after the last tap on the screen you soft-reset quickly) & then install the O2 cab-files. Other possibility is to flash your rom. Visit the wiki (link on top of the page & goto magician & then exe upgrade) for this & get an O2 shipped-rom from the ftp (or anywhere else on the web).
Cheers, M
Ps I'd go for only the cab-files first. Flashing can be done later when you're more accustomed to your device.

oltp said:
Best is to skip your current ext-rom (hard-reset, finish the initialization & just after the last tap on the screen you soft-reset quickly) & then install the O2 cab-files.
Cheers, M
Ps I'd go for only the cab-files first. Flashing can be done later when you're more accustomed to your device.
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Thank you!
How do I install the CAB file?
Which CAB File(O2 version) in the Magician folder is best?

Best? I don't know but watch out, there's a lot of Asian stuff in it. Usually the highest number is the most recent version & preferred.
Just put the cab-files on your device, preferable the SD card via Act.sync or card reaser, then start the file explorer on your device. Navigate to the location you stored them & click on them to install. Might be that you want to install CabInstl first, then you can choose where the apps from the cab's are installed.
M

Extended ROM

hey Does any one have any tools to unlock the Extended Rom for my Magician (O2 xda2 mini), i wanna install some cabs in there pls do help.

1.Download Resco Explorer or Total Commander (cos you will need either these 2 program to enable "Reveal all files"
2. To unhide the Extended ROM, after you reveal all files, go to your File Explorer (Start, Programs, File Explorer)
3. Using the File Explorer, go to Windows folder and find this file called LoadVDisk.exe and then just run the file
4. Next, using File Explorer again, and go to \My Device and you should see the Extended ROM folder
5. Click on the Extended ROM folder and find the necessary cab file and click on it..
6. soft reset
also the search function is also quite useful. try it once in a while...

hey thanks for the advice will check on it, thank you.

hey man it works so how do i place another program in ext rom and will it be installed everytime i hard reset, and yeah since its unlocked how do i lock it again. than for the help hoping for a reply soon.

u cant place any new programs in the ext ROM. that ROM is supposed to be inaccessible to u. ur ext ROM should be hidden after the soft reset. check it!

You may not be able to place anything in the ExtROM till you unlock it. You have only "unhide" the ROM by running that utility. Till you unlock it you can only read the contents not write into it....

so tell me how do i unlock the ext-Rom of a magician, has anyone got any idea, pls let me know if there are any possibilities, i want to unlock the ext. rom of my O2 xda2 mini, pls help.

There are more possibilities read its content, (unhiding it). One possibility to hard reset it (pressing the Power button while pushing RESET). This will erase every data+programs from the device.
When the 1st boot finishes the ExtROM cabs are beginning to install. You have to Soft Reset the device (pushing RESET) to interrupt it. No cabs will be installed and ExtROM will be readable.

asinan said:
so tell me how do i unlock the ext-Rom of a magician, has anyone got any idea, pls let me know if there are any possibilities, i want to unlock the ext. rom of my O2 xda2 mini, pls help.
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There are no unlockers for Magician AFAIK. But now most of the people go for big storage hack with which you get 27MB of extra space for storage. Put ExtROM on the SD card. Lots of material avilable on this forum for doing so..

what is the advantage of having a big storage other than ext.Rom, if i need to can i reverse the process back to normal.

The term “Big Storage” in a nut shell is the process of modifying the built in ROM file of the Magician and deleting its “Extended ROM” contents which frees up approx 20Mb of space. This new space or “Storage” can be used to install 3rd party apps etc and won’t be deleted after a hard reset. The only way to restore the contents is by “Flashing” the ROM again with a new complete ROM File. - excerpt from ampda guide

so what is the latest rom with the big storage for a magician. i surely would love to make a switch over. thank you.

The latest and last ROM for the Magician is 1.13 with Radio 1.12. Actually you can convert any ROM to BS.

[Q] HP rx1950 English ROM

first to post here
as i saw that HP rx1950 has got a Windows Mobile 6.1 Custom ROM..
but my device doesn't have the same language as the custom ROM pack, so i can't update it...
i've searched through the forum and the internet... there had been some ROMs posted,, but the links were dead already
anyone who still have this device, hope u can kindly extract the Stock WM5 English ROM for me
thanks a lot for your help, and sorry for my poor english..
martin

Just upgrade you phone, language of your current ROM doesn't make a difference .

Here is a kitchen ROM of WM 6.1 Classic for rx1950 from xda members Victory144 and Guifort.
http://www.mediafire.com/file/nna2yo92q2beiik/Flasher_Hp_Ipaq_rx1950_ENG_WM6.1.rar
I agree with tomcug. It should flash your ROM to WM 6.1 regardless of the language. You need to use it on a Windows XP computer with ActiveSync installed though...
Here is the original thread for more help:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=510764

RumoredNow said:
Here is a kitchen ROM of WM 6.1 Classic for rx1950 from xda members Victory144 and Guifort.
http://www.mediafire.com/file/nna2yo92q2beiik/Flasher_Hp_Ipaq_rx1950_ENG_WM6.1.rar
I agree with tomcug. It should flash your ROM to WM 6.1 regardless of the language. You need to use it on a Windows XP computer with ActiveSync installed though...
Here is the original thread for more help:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=510764
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I've read the post.. there're two methods to flash the WM6.1 ROM, by SD or through USB.. but i failed with a message "Wrong Image" after cloning the image to SD card, and the lauguage problem while flashing through USB with stock update utility (that maybe some lock by HP on language. mine is Chinese Traditional, but the update image is English..)
therefore, that'll be fine if the English Stock ROM is available.. btw, is there any program to flash that bypass the lock??
or how to change the language option of the ROM generated by kitchen?
i am not very familiar to configure the kitchen
thank you for your help

Here is a very technical discussion of 2 methods for installing different language ROMs.
http://www.tweaks2k2.com/How_to/39xxROMlang.htm
You will need a HexEditor:
http://www.mediafire.com/file/6r8ffn1fq3bh9mu/uedit32.exe
And a mtty program:
http://www.mediafire.com/file/7srppxvnr728ime/mtty11a.exe
BUT - at the end of method two when the author says - At the terminal screen type "lnb nk.nb0" at the USB prompt. (That means: Load the ROM nk.nb0)
INSTEAD - use the command "l nk.nb0"
That may be a typo - or the difference in mtty versions used by myself and the author...

thank you for your suggestion, i see that the ROM file structure of 3950 is a bit similar to rx1950, so i will try to change that
i've got the kitchen and the whole system downloaded from the site u suggested, but i just can't figure out how to change the language code of the output file while building the ROM , so that i can fool the ROM Update Utility and flash the ROM to my PDA..
wt's Build_XIP?
do u hv any suggestions? thx again
martin

Build_XIP... I think that is something for a different device. confused
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The following is based on research and guesswork. I make NO CLAIM that it will work and not damage your device... TRY AT YOUR OWN RISK.
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If my experiments with mtty and my reading of the How to install a different language tutorial are correct, all you need is:
mtty11a.exe to send commands to your iPAQ.
The English WM 6.1 ROM Image (CEOS.nbf) you want to upgrade to.
And Uedit32 to edit the ROM.
Put all 3 files in the same folder. It will be easiest to create a new folder on desktop with whatever name you like.
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This is for a Windows XP computer. That is what you have, yes?
First be sure to BACKUP your iPAQ and put all files in a safe place on your PC.
Next - remove the battery and any SD cards from the rx1950. Wait at least 10 minutes for the internal battery to discharge so that the iPAQ is cleared of all memory except the ROM you want to overwrite.
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Now we want to save the Chinese ROM you have so we can restore it if anything goes wrong. Best to be safe, yes?
Do you have a spare SD card at least 256mb? If not, use the one you normally have in rx1950... See why we saved all your files first?
Kill ActiveSync by opening Task Manager>Processes. Look on the list for wcesmgr.exe and wcescomm.exe. Highlight each one and click on End Process. With ActiveSync killed you can now "talk" to iPAQ with mtty.
DO NOT PUT IN THE BATTERY. Attach the iPAQ to the PC with the USB cable AND the AC Power Cord. Turn the iPAQ on and manually enter Bootloader Mode. (Google tells me for rx1950 you - press following buttons simultanously
Contacts + Mail + Reset for as long as your PDA boots)
Insert the SD card where you want to save the Chinese WM 5 ROM.
Go to the folder where you saved the 3 files you need and double click mtty11a.exe. That opens a box called "Open port setting." Scroll down the list in "Port" and look for \\\WCEUSBSH001. That is the port you want. I noticed that the end number (001) changes with each use of mtty. Never mind the number so much, \\\WCEUSBSH00x is what you want - that is your iPAQ. Select that port and click on the "OK" button.
It should open a command terminal (white window). Press enter until USB> appears in the window. I only needed to press enter once, but some tutorials say keep pressing until it appears. (?)
At the USB> prompt type r2SD and press enter. This will have mtty command your iPAQ to dump your ROM image onto the SD Card as RAW DATA. Wait for the progress bars on iPAQ screen to finish and you get a completed message.
Save this SD card in a safe place. This is your Recovery Image to restore the iPAQ back to the ROM you started with. The card is not formatted in a way that you can open and read with Windows XP so do not try putting it in a card reader right now - XP will want to format it and we don't want that to happen.
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If you need to recover your iPAQ at any point...
Unplug the iPAQ from PC and AC power cords. Remove battery and SD card. Wait 10 minutes to reset memory.
Insert SD card with Recovery Image. Plug in the AC power cord. Turn on iPAQ. Enter Bootloader Mode. iPAQ will see the Image on the SD card and offer you the option to Flash your ROM or exit. Pick the option to flash your ROM.
The iPAQ will Hard Reset after it flashes and then you can remove the SD card with the Recovery Image and do a Restore from the files you saved on PC and/or your regular SD card and the Backup we did at the beginning of this experiment.
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Now that we are safe, we can start to try and change the English WM 6.1 ROM so you can flash it to your iPAQ.
I read the "How to install a different language" tutorial quite a few times. Here are my calculations for what we need:
Original checksum
minus HexSum of ENG (45+4E+47 = DA)
equals change value
or
ECEC
-DA
= EC12
HexSum of CHT (43+48+54 = DF)
plus change value
equals new checksum
or
DF
+ EC12
= ECF1
Then that means we change ENG (code for English) to CHT (code for Chinese Traditional) and also change the Checksum from ECEC to ECF1 and we can get the ENG ROM to load on your CHT rx1950.
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Now you need to edit the ROM. Go to the folder where you saved the 3 files you need and double click uedit32.exe to open the Hex Editor. Click on "File>Open" and navigate to the folder where you put your files. Select CEOS.nbf and Uedit will open it.
10 lines down (line 00000090h) the file says "..........ENG.hp"
Next line 000000a0h says "iPAQ rx1950...."
This may or may not be the place to change - But I believe it is the right spot to tell any updater program what iPAQ version to update...
Scroll down to line 00000ea0h where it says "..........ECEC^a"
Next line 00000eb0h says ".e^a..........."
I believe that is the ROM Checksum and then an order to verify the checksum from iPAQ...
Scrolling down farther to line 00001ec0h it says " iPAQ rx1950..6."
Next line 00001ed0h says "00.00 ENG......."
I believe this tells any updater program what version is being flashed. But it may need to be changed...
So my best guess is:
At the first spot ENG is listed (line 00000090h) you need to edit ENG to CHT
At line 00000ea0h you need to edit ECEC to ECF1
Make these changes with Uedit32 and then click "File>Save as" and label the file "Test.nbf" saving it to the folder we have been using. (Note that mtty and any files you want to flash MUST be in the same directory.)
In Uedit32 click on "File>Close All Files" and exit Uedit32. Now you have 2 versions of the ROM in your folder...
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mtty still open and iPAQ connected?
If not - connect iPAQ as above (no battery or SD card, wait ten minutes, connect with USB and AC power, put rx1950 into Bootloader Mode). Open mtty. Navigate to your port and get a USB> prompt.
At USB> type in "l Test.nbf" (no quotes) and it should try to flash the edited ROM to rx1950.
If it was edited wrong you will get an error message something like "Header request time out."
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If it doesn't work that way it shouldn't affect your iPAQ and a Hard Reset should be all you need to restore your system. If that fails we have the SD card Restore Image we made earlier.
Delete the Test.nbf file from the folder and try editing CEOS.nbf again.
Try changing the Checksum and the second time ENG is listed:
At line 00000ea0h you need to edit ECEC to ECF1
At line 00001ed0h you need to edit ENG to CHT
Save as Test.nbf and have mtty "l Test.nbf" again
If it fails, delete Test.nbf
The last try would be by editing the Checksum and both times ENG is listed:
At line 00000090h you need to edit ENG to CHT
At line 00000ea0h you need to edit ECEC to ECF1
At line 00001ed0h you need to edit ENG to CHT
Save as Test.nbf and have mtty "l Test.nbf" again
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I hope one of these works for you. Please let us know what happens.
Thanks.

thanks for your suggestions very much!!
but i get the File CRC checksum error when using the stock update utility,
and through mtty.exe, it shows "Header Request Time out" also, in both i changed the first mentioned "ENG" to "CHT", second time and both times ...
all failed
would there any way to flash it through SD (by creating a suitable .nb0 file?) ?

hurray!!!!
i've cheated the HP ROM Update Utility (RUU) to accept to update an English ROM to a Chinese machine !!!
i use WinHex to replace the ENG with CHT, CHT with ENG,, and it's OK now!!!!
anyway, thank you very very very much for your sincere help!!!!!!!!!
Really marvellous!!!

HUZZAH and Congratulations martinhy!!!!!
I'm glad you got it to work.
I was at the keyboard for about 4 hours playing with the files last night and was afraid that my guess was wrong (as it turns out it was). So I'm really surprised and pleased that you solved it.
You just edited the RUU??? All other files in the kitchen folder stay the same???
Cause I need to cheat it and make it change from rx1950 to rx3115... I'll be trying your method soon.

it's troublesome to change ,, or i can say, cheat, the ROM file (.nbf) itself, coz it has checksum .. and the algorithm may be difficult to guess, and changing with different versions of iPAQ,
but the RUU itself doesn't have the integrity check, so it's cheatable
anyway, thx for your effort to help me

i can't be sure whether your guess is wrong, coz when i download the stock ROM, i.e. "l CEOS.nbf" to the iPAQ, through mtty, i also says "header request timed out"..
so i can't be sure whether there's problem for the way to edit the ROM, or the iPAQ doesn't support such mtty method...
or........
. becoz i'm a newbie, maybe i've got something wrong though...

*sigh*
When I try to change the RUU from rx1950 to rx3115 and run the rx1950 upgrade kitchen I get the CRC error...
When I try to change the .nbf and put it in with a rx3115 update package I get 244 Error (model ID)...
When I pull on my hair it comes out in big chunks...
I think I need a lot more study and a new toolkit...

that's maybe quite a challenge to flash ROMs from other models rather than language... both models are not compatible

martinhy said:
hurray!!!!
i've cheated the HP ROM Update Utility (RUU) to accept to update an English ROM to a Chinese machine !!!
i use WinHex to replace the ENG with CHT, CHT with ENG,, and it's OK now!!!!
anyway, thank you very very very much for your sincere help!!!!!!!!!
Really marvellous!!!
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can you help me do that ? thanks