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Stolen Phone.... Any Help??

I know this isn't a wm6 question, but I do know this is the most viewed forum for this wizard, and I am really reaching out for help from yall. I am fairly certain my phone just got stolen within the past couple of hours. I'm sure many of yall are like myself, in the face that having your wizard stolen/lost would be probably on of the list of things you would forever dread happening. I have tried calling it and it goes straight to voicemail.. Which for my phone (and probably many of yalls) never never happens. I NEVER turn it off.. Unless its getting a new rom or being reset it doesn't know what being turned off is like... So the fact it is going to voicemail leads me to believe a couple things and scenarios.
First someone jacked it, couldn't figure it out, and it turned it off to later resale or whatever else.
Second, since my phone is the Cingular 8125, if the person who stole it has cingular, they could have popped their sim card in, thus making any call I would recieve go straight to voicemail...
I bought the phone off of ebay, so its never been formerly aknowleged with cingular that I have it.
My question is... If someone was to try to use it, is there anyway cingular would even be able to tell (since technically it was never registered officially with them), or should I possibly say goodbye forever...
Also I had no security/stolen phone programs installed... totally regret that now..
I know its just a phone, and not the end of the world. However I know this is a forum where our phones aren't just always phones, but something we put a lot of time and energy into. So I hope you feel where I am coming from...
I am currently a college student, stuggling as all of us are... So losing it is going to hurt the ole wallet pretty hard no matter what I end up doing.. Any input yall have whatsoever is greatly appreciated..
Thanks for listening and letter me vent...

Unfortunately, its probably gone, and I doubt its traceable (if you know the IMEI of the phone, you might be able to get Cingular to shut it off the network, but I doubt they do much more than that).
I've been thinking about installing one of the anti-theft programs (there is a free one I recall that will detect a differnet SIM card). Seeing your post makes me think I need to find this now and look into doing this (I've come close to leaving mine at a resteraunt a few times).
BTW: While I realize you are a college student, but if you have renters insurance (I'm assuming you don't own a home, otherwise we'd be talking homeowners insurance instead), you could possibly make a claim on this there. Also (not that it helps that much) when you do your taxes next year, you can claim property theft (make sure you have documentation though) as a loss / write off (but you have to itemize to claim that so may not be worth it to you if you don't already itemize).

mfrazzz said:
Unfortunately, its probably gone, and I doubt its traceable (if you know the IMEI of the phone, you might be able to get Cingular to shut it off the network, but I doubt they do much more than that).
I've been thinking about installing one of the anti-theft programs (there is a free one I recall that will detect a differnet SIM card). Seeing your post makes me think I need to find this now and look into doing this (I've come close to leaving mine at a resteraunt a few times).
BTW: While I realize you are a college student, but if you have renters insurance (I'm assuming you don't own a home, otherwise we'd be talking homeowners insurance instead), you could possibly make a claim on this there. Also (not that it helps that much) when you do your taxes next year, you can claim property theft (make sure you have documentation though) as a loss / write off (but you have to itemize to claim that so may not be worth it to you if you don't already itemize).
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Mfrazzz,
You are truly a good person. Not only do you give your time an effort in regards to fine roms and teaching, but you you reach out and help anyone an regarding anything. You gave Zack84a an honest answer and something too turn a bad situation good. I commend you and appreciate you. It's a nice way to be!

http://thinkabdul.com/2007/03/02/mo...monitor-sim-card-changes-via-gps-coordinates/
the above link is for the above mentioned security freeware, at that site is a link for the download, as well as an explanation of how it works. i'm gonna install it now, and hope it works. sorry to hear about your 8125, i know this link is too late for you, but perhaps will help someone in the future.

I don't know how it works in the US but this is what I would be thinking if this happened to me in the UK...
1. I need to report the SIM card stolen to my carrier straight away. Any calls made on that SIM before I report it stolen means I have to pay for them.
2. When reporting it stolen I'd ask the carrier to block both the SIM and phone IMEI. I don't need to know the IMEI, the carrier can trace that from my phone number. It also doesn't matter if I bought the phone from my carrier or elsewhere as my account with them is registered by the SIM.
3. The best I could hope for is that once the phone is IMEI blocked the thief will throw it away and some kind person will hand it in to a police station. Here in the UK you can register your IMEI on a national police computer database so it can be sent back to you if found (obviously if you don't have a record of your IMEI then you can't do this, and here in the UK a carrier wouldn't be allowed to give you the IMEI).
Hope some of this might help.

akashastrega said:
http://thinkabdul.com/2007/03/02/mo...monitor-sim-card-changes-via-gps-coordinates/
the above link is for the above mentioned security freeware, at that site is a link for the download, as well as an explanation of how it works. i'm gonna install it now, and hope it works. sorry to hear about your 8125, i know this link is too late for you, but perhaps will help someone in the future.
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You have to remember one thing about that software. It only works if your phone has GPS. The 8125 does not have GPS hardware. So this wont do anything for us 8125 or MDA users.

something i did, was change my boot screen. it has an image i like, but using a paint program, i typed over the image:
this mda belongs to jennifer boyd
it may have been lost or stolen
if found please contact me
[email protected]
at least when they boot the phone, unless they whore xda and KNOW how to change the boot screens, they will see this message...in my mind, it may not get my phone back, but at least i will guilt trip the person...and if it is found, perhaps a kind person will actually return it to me.
and all the above suggestions are good. i wish you the best of luck. i'd freak if i lost my precious.
and damn and double damn, i was hoping that software would help. guess i'll stick to my guilt tripping method.

How about this one?
nottoosmart said:
You have to remember one thing about that software. It only works if your phone has GPS. The 8125 does not have GPS hardware. So this wont do anything for us 8125 or MDA users.
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http://www.scpsoft.com/
I´m sorry Zack84a, I know is too late.... but here it is, doesn´t require GPS and creates a similar message as described in the prvious post.

luiggi said:
http://www.scpsoft.com/
I´m sorry Zack84a, I know is too late.... but here it is, doesn´t require GPS and creates a similar message as described in the prvious post.
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Has anyone used and tested this app? Is it worth $20? Sorry to here about the lost phone Z!

akashastrega said:
something i did, was change my boot screen. it has an image i like, but using a paint program, i typed over the image:
this mda belongs to jennifer boyd
it may have been lost or stolen
if found please contact me
[email protected]
at least when they boot the phone, unless they whore xda and KNOW how to change the boot screens, they will see this message...in my mind, it may not get my phone back, but at least i will guilt trip the person...and if it is found, perhaps a kind person will actually return it to me.
and all the above suggestions are good. i wish you the best of luck. i'd freak if i lost my precious.
and damn and double damn, i was hoping that software would help. guess i'll stick to my guilt tripping method.
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I have done a similar thing, by putting the "owner" info into the rom and changing the registry to remove the "owner info" control pannel applet then when they hard reset they get my welcome note same as you and also they can't disable/change owner details

Thanks everyone.....
I've pretty much decided that getting it back is a lost cause.....
I encourage everyone to some type of antitheft application installed... its something I always saw, but always thought "oh it will never happen to me"....
If anyone knows of someone trying to get rid of their wizard, or know of a place other than ebay that sells used phones... please let me know...
Zack
ps mfrazzz
Thanks for the help that you give everyone in this forum.... Its probably no coincidence that you were the first to reply and the fact that I had crossbow reloaded on my phone at time it was stolen... You do awesome work and are an asset to this forum...

eye on thief
Hi
Since a couple of weeks I have the application Eye on Thief on it... and... it works.
Eye on thief is an application that sends an SMS message to a predefined other number (of your girlfiend/mom/dad/... ).
In that way you have the mobile phonenumber of the one who stole it/found it/ bought it from the thief.

akashastrega said:
http://thinkabdul.com/2007/03/02/mo...monitor-sim-card-changes-via-gps-coordinates/
the above link is for the above mentioned security freeware, at that site is a link for the download, as well as an explanation of how it works. i'm gonna install it now, and hope it works. sorry to hear about your 8125, i know this link is too late for you, but perhaps will help someone in the future.
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Actually, MobileJustice is free, and it does work fine on the Wizard (you just can't use the GPS or LOCman part of it). I installed it last night on my phone (after reading Zack84a's post) and set it up and it sent an SMS to my wife's phone when I didn't tell it a valid SIM. Also has a feature where you can send an SMS to your phone (so after you get the SMS about an unknown sim, you can reply back) with a password and a command and put messages on the screen of your phone (they don't see the SMS come in, just suddenly a dialog box with your text shows up on the screen).
I've made a package for this, and plan on building this in to the next version of Crossbow Reloaded if people want to use it. Like Zack84a, I've always seen these apps, but just thought I'd do it later... Seeing his post has made me realize I need to put this in place.
Downside with MobileJustice is unless you build something inot the extended rom, a hard reset would knock it out. Some of the commercial stuff apparently does this for you (so that alone may make it worth the $20 or so to register).

IMEI nomber
Hey Zack84a,
Your Cingular 8125 IMEI # is on a label on the original box, if U still got it/keep it.

Hey, I have a friend selling his T-mobile MDA (htc wizard) for $200. Let me know soon, and I can put you in contact with him, cuz he's posting it on ebay.

hey i know exactly how you feel. my phone didnt exactly get stolen but it was lost and i wasnt able to find it. and here in the US theres not much you can do about your phone getting stolen so it really sucks. luckily i got a new one from a friend because he works for cingular and someone that worked there had it.i put the security software on my new phone too.
so im sorry for your lose and hope you figure something out.

mfrazzz said:
Actually, MobileJustice is free, and it does work fine on the Wizard (you just can't use the GPS or LOCman part of it). I installed it last night on my phone (after reading Zack84a's post) and set it up and it sent an SMS to my wife's phone when I didn't tell it a valid SIM. Also has a feature where you can send an SMS to your phone (so after you get the SMS about an unknown sim, you can reply back) with a password and a command and put messages on the screen of your phone (they don't see the SMS come in, just suddenly a dialog box with your text shows up on the screen).
I've made a package for this, and plan on building this in to the next version of Crossbow Reloaded if people want to use it. Like Zack84a, I've always seen these apps, but just thought I'd do it later... Seeing his post has made me realize I need to put this in place.
Downside with MobileJustice is unless you build something inot the extended rom, a hard reset would knock it out. Some of the commercial stuff apparently does this for you (so that alone may make it worth the $20 or so to register).
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I can't figure it out! I put a bogus SIM number in and the wife's phone number to report to and I did a soft reset and nothing!

calouro said:
I can't figure it out! I put a bogus SIM number in and the wife's phone number to report to and I did a soft reset and nothing!
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Read the 3rd post of the Crossbow Reloaded 1.7 thread. Maybe that will help. Personally to test it I've just deleted all sim's in the auth list. Just enabled it and setup the person to send it to.

Thanks, but I did what the post said, still no go! I sent an SMS to my wife's phone manually (just to make sure it works) and it went through! So, for some reason, the MJ program just will not work with my config. Not sure why.

Zack84a said:
I know this isn't a wm6 question, but I do know this is the most viewed forum for this wizard, and I am really reaching out for help from yall. I am fairly certain my phone just got stolen within the past couple of hours. I'm sure many of yall are like myself, in the face that having your wizard stolen/lost would be probably on of the list of things you would forever dread happening. I have tried calling it and it goes straight to voicemail.. Which for my phone (and probably many of yalls) never never happens. I NEVER turn it off.. Unless its getting a new rom or being reset it doesn't know what being turned off is like... So the fact it is going to voicemail leads me to believe a couple things and scenarios.
First someone jacked it, couldn't figure it out, and it turned it off to later resale or whatever else.
Second, since my phone is the Cingular 8125, if the person who stole it has cingular, they could have popped their sim card in, thus making any call I would recieve go straight to voicemail...
I bought the phone off of ebay, so its never been formerly aknowleged with cingular that I have it.
My question is... If someone was to try to use it, is there anyway cingular would even be able to tell (since technically it was never registered officially with them), or should I possibly say goodbye forever...
Also I had no security/stolen phone programs installed... totally regret that now..
I know its just a phone, and not the end of the world. However I know this is a forum where our phones aren't just always phones, but something we put a lot of time and energy into. So I hope you feel where I am coming from...
I am currently a college student, stuggling as all of us are... So losing it is going to hurt the ole wallet pretty hard no matter what I end up doing.. Any input yall have whatsoever is greatly appreciated..
Thanks for listening and letter me vent...
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Do you still have your phone box?? perhaps you can report the IMEI of the phone so they disable it and no one can use it, more over they can catch the robber.
Good luck m8. im sorry for you big loss

I'm being harassed by a stranger....

He/She keeps sending me text messages from the same number. I told that person to stop but he/she still insists in persisting.
I'm using AT&T, and AT&T gave me to choices: 1) Pay AT&T 15 dollars a month to block a number and 2) Change my phone number for FREE.
I have reasons not to change my phone number and I can not afford 15 dollars a month for phone calls.
Will any techniques work in stopping this harasser from harassing me?
Or does anyone know a good software (I'll freaking pay for it) that I can use to ****ing deny text messages from this person?
Sometimes I even get phone calls from that number. Also......sometimes he/she attempts to call me as "unknown".
Other than that... if he/she keeps harassing me. I have no choice but to publicize his/her number so I can ruin his/her life for trying to ruin mine.

Cant you complaint to police instead?

I have an idea; change your voicemail to YouMail instead of ATT, then setup a Ditch Caller greeting/action and ditch the call or have them hear the same message all the time.
Free and pretty simple. You just can't answer your calls blind and must have caller id working. If the caller gets wize and calls from a blocked number you can ditch or block those too.

SPB Phone Suite allows call filtering. It can direct numbers on your 'black list' straight to voicemail.
EDIT:
Someone on xda has made a freeware call firewall. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=307178

I had this happening to me last year. The phone company (Orange at the time) were unhelpful so I responded to a text that if they did not stop I would contact the police. The offending text messages duly stopped.

The freeware call firewall sounds great. I´ve never had a problem like this but what can the police say or do?
My first thought was to spam him 10x back with some kind of automatic SMS sending service.

skuliaxe said:
The freeware call firewall sounds great. I´ve never had a problem like this but what can the police say or do?
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In the UK they can arrest the offender and caution them. If that fails then they are liable to prosecution.
A caution alone will flag up on a criminal records check - which is needed in the UK for some jobs - particularly working with children - which will will prevent you from being employed.
That's all assuming the police have the time or inclination to respond to your complaint.

Hi,
http://www.privacyrights.org/fs/fs3-hrs2.htm
The link may offer some information to you. I dont want to scare you but if it persists you need to get proper professional help for your own personal safety, DO NOT ignore it, any form of stalking whether your a man or woman is a serious matter and I am speaking from experience.

Isnt there an app called "Do not disturb".
I used it once. Do a search on it.

poetryrocksalot said:
I'm using AT&T, and AT&T gave me to choices: 1) Pay AT&T 15 dollars a month to block a number and 2) Change my phone number for FREE.
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What in the hell? AT&T actually forces you to pay $15 per month (in other words, as much as they charge for unlimited data) to block someone from harassing you? Aren't telecommunication companies supposed to help you or at least offer information to the police in cases of harassment and stalking?
Other people have offer good advice, but I'm going to have to agree with calling the police.

8525Smart said:
What in the hell? AT&T actually forces you to pay $15 per month (in other words, as much as they charge for unlimited data) to block someone from harassing you? Aren't telecommunication companies supposed to help you or at least offer information to the police in cases of harassment and stalking?
Other people have offer good advice, but I'm going to have to agree with calling the police.
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What do you think capitalism is?
Ok guys, I need to know how to extract the messages into text. I would like to upload the messages from my phone to show you what my problem is.

I used a great method, which did not involve sending the information to police, dealing with courts (which causes you to miss work), or paying extra fees for software or from protection from my wireless provider.
I simply recorded (or found on the internet) an audio clip of "*annoying sound bit*this number has been disconnected", I let it repeat twice like the phone companies do. I then placed that for my voicemail greeting.
There is plenty of free software available you can use to blacklist callers. So blacklist the callers phone number and use the disconnected greeting. It will work like a charm because it will go directly to your voicemail. Eventually the text and phone calls will stop.

poetryrocksalot said:
What do you think capitalism is?
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What's with the snarky response? As I recall, 'capitalism' is a system in which the means of production is owned by individuals, and I don't think that inherently requires them to charge a high fee for absolutely everything. Of course, I also know that doesn't mean they won't do it if the consumer lets it.
You know, just forget it. I really don't care if AT&T charges $15 per month to block a number.

I offered a free, viable and immediate solution. So did others.

8525Smart said:
What's with the snarky response? As I recall, 'capitalism' is a system in which the means of production is owned by individuals, and I don't think that inherently requires them to charge a high fee for absolutely everything. Of course, I also know that doesn't mean they won't do it if the consumer lets it.
You know, just forget it. I really don't care if AT&T charges $15 per month to block a number.
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I wasn't trying to be rude. I've been thinking about filing a report the police station. And all the other advices are highly considered too. But of all else, there was nothing that was meant to be rude.
(Please don't be offended, as well. I am not for socialism)

For exporting your sms go to this link and download SMS Export, its a good free app http://www.smsexport.com/
if you export as text its readable.
And as for capitalism , huh, its just as bad as communism, socialism etc..., its just another lie for corporation control of the masses. So three cheers for who gives a f*ckism.
rofl

poetryrocksalot said:
I wasn't trying to be rude. I've been thinking about filing a report the police station. And all the other advices are highly considered too. But of all else, there was nothing that was meant to be rude.
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No, no, I wasn't upset about that. Whichever advice you chose is wholly your choice and I don't want to interfere. I just thought you might have been making a sarcastic critique about me believing AT&T wouldn't charge for such a thing.
(Please don't be offended, as well. I am not for socialism)
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I am also not a person who hates socialism nor am I necessarily pro-capitalism. I do prefer capitalism, but I don't believe a pure capitalist system works.

8525Smart said:
No, no, I wasn't upset about that. Whichever advice you chose is wholly your choice and I don't want to interfere. I just thought you might have been making a sarcastic critique about me believing AT&T wouldn't charge for such a thing.
I am also not a person who hates socialism nor am I necessarily pro-capitalism. I do prefer capitalism, but I don't believe a pure capitalist system works.
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Forgive me, it's the internet and it's hard to shape speech without true presence. Also, someone made a thread about the over-use of lol on the "Off-Topic" forum, which sort of caused me to refrain from adding a lol.
I am going to download the SMS export soon and show you guys the text (probably by October 1st).
Also, she has told me that she would stop once. She stopped for 1 week then suddenly spammed me again.
About 1-2 days ago she said she would stop again. But she claimed that she cried because of this. And she hasn't texted me so far.
One reason I don't want to file police report and take court action against this person is that if this is a real "teenager" girl as she claims to be, and that if she is from my perspective *insecure and need a friend* but also a real person, than I feel obligated not to hurt this person.
Also, if you guys are wondering, I think she got my number from a demo T-Mobile Touch Pro2 that I used to call my number. I forgot to purge the out-coming-call's list.

poetryrocksalot said:
Forgive me, it's the internet and it's hard to shape speech without true presence. Also, someone made a thread about the over-use of lol on the "Off-Topic" forum, which sort of caused me to refrain from adding a lol.
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You shouldnt realy pay attention to someone who tells you how to express yourself the way they want you to express yourself, the net is a free place( for now anyway) lol so enjoy lolling as long as you want to lol and dont forget to rofl too, lol, lol, lol

I would nuke em...spam them with a thousand text messages and see if they do it again....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=3749481&postcount=1

firm ware

im looking for a free downloadable firm ware for my g1 to intercept text messages from another phone can anyone help

tsk tsk tsk.....thats so illegal.

bodyman6666 said:
im looking for a free downloadable firm ware for my g1 to intercept text messages from another phone can anyone help
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your my hero

bodyman6666 said:
im looking for a free downloadable firm ware for my g1 to intercept text messages from another phone can anyone help
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not possible

funny question. It was funny because I told my gf I had an app like that and I was reading her texts and she was pissed but it was funny. I had her going for about a week until I told her it was fake.
Its not possible dude

what the hell do you need a app like that for, by the way NO such app, im sure there is some cracker some where has something like that, but never available for piblic consumption!!
but come one, jsut be man and read the TXTs like everyone else, I think he is thinking theres an app kinda like airsnort or aircrack ya know to pull wep keys outta the air to crack WiFi networks

Hey, friend the app your in search of is available but only to the law enforcement. If you apply for a job at your local police department or even the fire department they will give you a free demo of the machine that will allow you to "intercept" messages of your choice from any number even your own.I will not ask why your want to spy on other because that is your own decision, have a nice day!
I don't know where your from but you should visit the Police website your state too to see if you fit their requirements, make your you don't have some kind of record because they won't trust crooks with that kind of software power!

lol dude as if you want an app like that ...if you dont trust your girl, leave her ...
and if you think she's cheating...she is

lol thats illegal in most countries, well at least to civilians

yo, all you gotta do is get her phone, (what type of phone is it?) and than you can forward the messages to your number, shell never look man, and they will still go to her handset as well, trust me, my moron ex was sending me copies of all her texts ( HENSE THE EX) pm me and i will let you know whats the deal with it.
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lol thats illegal in most countries, well at least to civilians
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Just hack into Echelon, it receives every message we send.

ask HAL, he knows...oh how he knows..

Maybe if your on the same network provider you could get her message centre number iv heard that works

ah...a world where you cant trust anyone....what a lovely world it is....
am i the only one with any respect for people and their privacy?

it is just possible that he wants any texts sent to his old number that he may have lost or broken the phone and simcard, but more likely a bit of spying

We're not the big brother

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Dualing phones

I'm currently running an HTC touch pro 2 and i still have my HTC touch pro. I turned my TP1 on the other day for the first time in many months and the phone picked up a text message, not only did it pick it up, it picked it up at the same time my TP2 did. Unfortunately it hasn't happened since.
What i'd like to know, is there a way i can emulate the IMIE number on the tp2, so that i can have both my TP2 and my TP1 working at the same time.
I want to be able to use my TP1 as a full data device while i make my calls on my TP2 or vice versa.
If you can't post the answer here for what ever reason feel free to private message me.
*edit it will recieve every txt message that is sent to my number but it won't send and it won't take incoming calls.

Good luck with that, cause that aint gonna happen. Well, at least not anyway that I can possibly think of. Carriers wont allow more than one phone per mobile number. They say it isn't possible, but I personally think it IS possible and that they just wont allow it. Technically, it should be able to work. But the problems would fall with the GPS. Even if GPS was on in one device while off on the other, they couldn't track someone if they wanted to. I'm sure there are other reasons to this. I have never heard of what you are experiencing. They probabbly didn't fully remove the old phone's IMIE data from the system, hence why you can receive texts but not send anything. What service are you on?

THE-COPS said:
Good luck with that, cause that aint gonna happen. Well, at least not anyway that I can possibly think of. Carriers wont allow more than one phone per mobile number. They say it isn't possible, but I personally think it IS possible and that they just wont allow it. Technically, it should be able to work. But the problems would fall with the GPS. Even if GPS was on in one device while off on the other, they couldn't track someone if they wanted to. I'm sure there are other reasons to this. I have never heard of what you are experiencing. They probabbly didn't fully remove the old phone's IMIE data from the system, hence why you can receive texts but not send anything. What service are you on?
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1) unfortunately telus.
2) The GPS on my phones has been completely deactivated except for when I want to turn it on. I refuse to allow someone to turn it on remotely, also in Canada that's akin to wireless phone tapping so the cops can't do it. And even if they could legally i'd still reprogram my phone so they can't.
3) That's my point. If they didn't fully remove it and my old phone can still get the txt messages that means they can re-add the old MEIE numbers back to the system and both should work. OR if i could put an emulator onto my phone or even hard code the MEIE number change on my old phone to the same as my new one...

Remember back in the day when cellphones were still a new thing, the brick and bag phones and so on, well someone figured out how to clone phones and the practice caught on like wildfire and since then has been literally outlawed. AS IN IT IS ILLEGAL TO CLONE ONE OR MORE PHONES TO THE SAME IMEI, MSID, DEC OR HEX SERIAL TO GAIN USE OF MULTIPLE PHONES ON THE SAME LINE AT THE SAME TIME. Not being mean or an ass to you, but I would research this a little bit and tread lightly on the subject. Stuff like this is not tolerated very well on xda.
Plus, now it would be almost impossible to do this with any carrier as the data the phone sends out is not just what you want it to. Whenever it connects to the network is sends and receives configuration data such as manufacturer and model among other things and will throw red flags if it doesnt match up to what the expected result of the data sent and received to the network and carrier has on file.
Again, tread lightly on this path.

"AS IN IT IS ILLEGAL TO CLONE" I'm serious, I'd like to see an actual Canadian law stating this. And if it's not illegal in Canada then it's a legit question. Well it's still legit.
"not tolerated very well on xda." Why? the whole point of these forums is to learn and teach people how to modify their phones. If they didn't want people sharing this information they should never have started this website to begin with.
As to my actual question and as to one stated answer
"They probably didn't fully remove the old phone's IMIE data from the system"
If it's still partially in the system that means it could be wholly in the system and means it should be able to be done. If they say it can't but i'm still getting txts on both phones that means the carriers are lying and are just making excuses to get more money. If thats all it is i'll do my best to get every penny out of them for every penny they're stealing from me.
Ok rant done, how do I clone my IMIE number? (no i won't tread lightly)

slight22 said:
"AS IN IT IS ILLEGAL TO CLONE" I'm serious, I'd like to see an actual Canadian law stating this. And if it's not illegal in Canada then it's a legit question. Well it's still legit.
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its considered fraud under the law in most counties, like changing the VIN on a car, even if there isnt a specific law to deal with it
and besides that, its against the rules of this forum, so even if it was legal to do its not ok to ask about here

defaultdotxbe said:
its considered fraud under the law in most counties, like changing the VIN on a car, even if there isnt a specific law to deal with it
and besides that, its against the rules of this forum, so even if it was legal to do its not ok to ask about here
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Your making a mountain out of a mole hill and there is a very real difference between a 6 or 8 hundred dollar phone and 15 thousand dollar plus car; unless you own both then i see no issue switching out the vin, as long as you own the cars.
as to being the against forum policy i challenge that on the simple fact there is nothing wrong with sharing knowledge.

slight22 said:
Your making a mountain out of a mole hill and there is a very real difference between a 6 or 8 hundred dollar phone and 15 thousand dollar plus car; unless you own both then i see no issue switching out the vin, as long as you own the cars.
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lawmakers disagree
as to being the against forum policy i challenge that on the simple fact there is nothing wrong with sharing knowledge.
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forum admins disagree

"lawmakers disagree"
I can't trace out anywhere where they say cloning your phones IMIE is illegal in Canada, and i also just got of the phone with HTC and they said they don't know of any laws saying it is.
As to the forum admins, they are allowed to disagree, but i'll be they want to know just as much as I do.

Another thread (closed) on this site which discusses ESN cloning: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=380172
Just search on google, and you will find what you need. There are programs like cdma workshop out there.

Google voice app dialing the same number on one phone but not other

SOLUTION FOUND, READ FURTHER DOWN THREAD. THANKS
Ok so heres the odd thing
Older version of google voice app installed on my old Droidx phone, it would call any number through the same dialed out google voice number thereby allowing me to put that number into my friends and family list with verizon.
well, with the sgs3 and ICS it appears that old version of google voice is not compatible as it force closes when trying to use it.
So, I install the current version available from the market, BUT it still dials the SAME number from before, no matter what. It is always the same number. I have called a few hundred different people over the past 2 weeks and it has always been the same number (i keep checking to make sure)
to add to the confusion, I got another sgs3 for another line on the same verizon family plan (received the preorder 2 days later then mine) and perform the same installation of the old app and new app from the play store....... BUT that other line uses different numbers almost every time. I dont get it.
heres what I know:
-2 phones same version of the app act differently
-the google voice numbers themselves are sequential
-the emails for the google account are very similar ([email protected] and [email protected])
-the emails are both @gmail.com domain
-the people being called are the same
-the number google voice uses is different
-when calling, 10 digit number is being used on both phones
I thought maybe since I installed the old version of the app and then the new version that maybe something got left behind, nope, i have flashed about 6 different roms and factory reset a dozen times. I have even deleted the system and restored with different stock images.
Does anyone have any insight here? how this could be? how to change the varying number google voice account/app dials and make it the same number as the other one or even a different number but make it dial that number each time?
Im lost here, with no rhyme or reason. any help? anyone? ty
SOLUTION FOUND, READ FURTHER DOWN THREAD. THANKS

WOW 79 people viewed this and not one could reply?
Well I figured out how to get it dialing one number again.
all you do is...
you know maybe no one cares, never mind I will keep it to myself unless theres a demand for knowing how to do it.

I have the same problem as you. I've been looking for a fix but haven't gotten any help either
Sent from Verizon's now unlocked Galaxy S3.

I will pm you.

questions first ......are the calls going through to your person you are trying to call?

psycopanther said:
questions first ......are the calls going through to your person you are trying to call?
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yes. the call completes fine, its just that the number it dials out on (not my gv number, but the dialing number that initiates the call) think of it similar to a calling card. where you dial a number to get access to the call.
Anyways, I dial a number, say Brian, I hit call and it dials a gv number then connects me to Brians number. That gv number changes and is random seemingly, so one cant put the numbers into say their A-list or Verizon's friends and family as they use to be able to before....
well, i guess, until now.

ah yea, i know exactly what you are talking about. google changed that a good while back in their app. I noticed this also because i woul use the google number that it called in my 10 free friends number alot (may be one reason they had to change it, verizon got jelly of a number not using any minutes). you can actually google about it ( i did when it happened ) and i actually found the app that was lower version that did not use different numbers (access numbers).
also, one thing i remember reading did state that they most likely changed this setup because of the need to add more access numbers due to increased popularity.
i actually have used my GV number for 2+ years i believe as a alternate primary line to my business (was great idea when i had the number as a free friend number.
hopes this helps ?

well the old version of the app worked........ until i got on the sgs3 with ics, it force closes now (on old version)....
But do not fear, for I have figured out how to get it to work like it use to!!! I have it dialing the same number again and again. it was exciting since I have multiple gv numbers that we use as our main number (different people in the family) ty what you posted does help... Im not the only one needing this. ty

tillithz said:
well the old version of the app worked........ until i got on the sgs3 with ics, it force closes now (on old version)....
But do not fear, for I have figured out how to get it to work like it use to!!! I have it dialing the same number again and again. it was exciting since I have multiple gv numbers that we use as our main number (different people in the family) ty what you posted does help... Im not the only one needing this. ty
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how did you get it to work or were you not going to say?

Im gauging demand.
It doesnt/didnt seem like anyone cared or knew about the app and its functionality. If thats the case, then I will keep how I have it working to myself, but if others find they could use it... ty

You realize you wasted four or five posts saying you were not going to reveal the way how, unless you had the peoples interests. when you could have only used up one post. Kinda seems wasteful of your time and mine when you are in a question and answer thread category, instead not a beg and ye shall receive one.
If you wish to be asked for this by a group of followers than good luck as I for one will not give any more of my time nor knowing waste a servers space. Space is not free if you are unaware.
I do not wish any hard feelings toward you nor your opinions and morals but I assume you want only honest replies when you ask a question here and I am replying as expected.
Sorry for the length.

psycopanther said:
You realize you wasted four or five posts saying you were not going to reveal the way how, unless you had the peoples interests. when you could have only used up one post. Kinda seems wasteful of your time and mine when you are in a question and answer thread category, instead not a beg and ye shall receive one.
If you wish to be asked for this by a group of followers than good luck as I for one will not give any more of my time nor knowing waste a servers space. Space is not free if you are unaware.
I do not wish any hard feelings toward you nor your opinions and morals but I assume you want only honest replies when you ask a question here and I am replying as expected.
Sorry for the length.
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you are right, I have posted a few times. but when only 2 other people are talking about the thread that is a month old, and only explaining their interest surely you can see just how frustrating it was that no one offered any insight until I said I figured it out. I mean if the thread wasnt worth the time when there wasnt a way, it sure shouldnt mean any more now that I figured it out .... right? btw, you did post "questions first" I appreciate your interest now though.
I dont mind sharing it one off with people as I have already shared it with others here. Frankly though, maybe your right... I will just shut my mouth and not share it and refrain from continuing to post to see if there is more interest here for it. sorry I wasted your time.
p.s. I wouldnt worry about server resources here, surely youve seen some of the other threads go on and on for hundreds of posts not saying anything. But I have reported thread to be deleted.
ty

Well due to such a great demand for people wanting to know how to do this, I have asked the thread be unlocked. I didnt want to argue in any other posters thread so I simply linked it to this one that really is the original one.
There should be some caution explained that Verizon probably doesnt like this because it sort of abuses the Friends and Family list. Afterall, this really is only useful to the people on a tiered MINUTE plan (unlike newer plans that have unlimited voice but tiered data). Google obviously folded to pressure from the Cellular providers back when versions after 0.3.0 where released. I know personally I save nearly 500 minutes a month on outgoing calls alone. Configured correctly, a user could effectively eliminate all minutes on the line using Google Voice.
As we should all be cautious about posting this method publicly because there is a reason this is so 'difficult' to do, please just pm me so that we hopefully dont give this to verizon so easily. I am asking that all that is posted here is:
Thanks
"Yep, it works...." (or similar)
Please dont post any details about this publicly, even in this thread. If you are having a hard time getting it to work after a pm with me, just message me again, I will happily help. If you dont like this or think I shouldnt do it this way, you can pm me.
I dont want to argue with anyone about this. Thanks for understanding.

Thanks tillithz... worked like a charm!