As an ex Palm 650 owner (still my favourite in many ways) i'm really interested in the 750v. i've currently got a TyTn (MDA Vario II) but, as usual with these devices, i'm not totally convinced by it, especially the phone functions (too easy to miss a call!).
So, does anyone have direct experience of the TyTn and the 750v? Which do you prefer and why?
Also, if you are making the switch, would it be better to wait for the Palm release (a couple of months i've been told) rather than going Vodaphone and having to unlock it and having all the Vodaphone add-ons?
thanks
mike
I have the same question. I have a TyTn now, it's great, but the form factor of the Treo seems better (I loved my 650 other than the OS)
I was first thinking of getting the Tytn but I don't like the looks. I'm actually still contemplating of either the Treo 750V or the HTC Artemis.
I have owned the Wizard and now the 750v I think that the Palm tweaks are what sets this phone aside from any other. Yes it doesn't have Wifi, but to me it's the best WM PPC "PHONE" out there. If you need WiFi then i will stick with your Tytn, even though you can add a mini sd WiFi card to it. I also own a SE P990, and right now the Treo is my primary phone, it's just amazing, and it's fast. Really happy with the shipped ROM for Voda, even though they have lost points for not including Pocket MSN ie. no messenger, or hotmail accounts built in. Which sucks cause I actually use it, but you can get it with the Cingular ROM on here. One thing found out is that I do not like phones that move. I love the fact that it has a static kb, and WM 5.2. the screen is great to me very bright. Just really happy with this device.
i too owned a Tytn, but sold it because my employer required me to use a corp phone to get reimbursed for cell expenses. after suffering severe PPC withdrawal symptons and pleading for an exception with my employer, i picked up the 750v. kudos to Palm for making this a solid one-handed device. oh, and not to mention the great call/sound quality. i'm using the HTTPMail program to get my MSN/Hotmail. it adds "HTTP" as a mail service similar to "POP3" and "IMAP". this implementation allows one to create a MSN/Hotmail account using the PPC outlook clien..i know it's an extra expense, but it's well worth it to me.
I decided not to get Treo because of its screen resolution. At a time when small VGA Pocket PC are on the horizon aka Gigabyte g-Smart i200, why would I want to be stuck with nasty 240 * 240?
I come from a Dopod 838, which is the Cingular 8125 in the states. Personally, the resolution problem is not as bad as it seems. Most things fit well, and its an acceptable compromise for someone the device 50% for calls/sms/email and 50% for data. If you're an 80% data user, the Tytn may make sense.
For me, having to flip the slider EVERYTIME really made the 838 quite inconvenient. I have played with the Tytn, and a personal friend who owns it, says its alright... but crashes once or twice each day. (granted he loaded LOTS of 3rd party stuff). I think its more practical as a data pda... the phone features are an afterthought.
Yea, not having PocketMSN is a bummer, but you can try the Windows Live messenger beta. (Just turn off the Today screen plugins,.. and the Live email doesn't work yet because the servers/services are not activiated on MS's end)
Live messenger works great, looks great. Though its quite a power hog, so hard for extended day long use. For that Verichat works better... but there's an annual charge.
raven2000 said:
I decided not to get Treo because of its screen resolution. At a time when small VGA Pocket PC are on the horizon aka Gigabyte g-Smart i200, why would I want to be stuck with nasty 240 * 240?
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form over function? i agree it's not at pretty as the Tytn's but the 750v screen is more than adequate.
This is great guys, thank you. haven't seen anything to put me off the 750v - I don't use MSN or Hotmail and I definitely prefer the form factor of the 750v.
Guess I'll be switching over soon
I was a Treo 600 user till I got a MDA Vario (aka Wizard), changed to TyTn after that, the screen is great and that about the only thing I miss, I have to say I hated that phone, the phone itself is so unfriendly to use, I missed so many calls and it has a habit of crashing alot.
I managed to swing a trade to 750v and my life improved dramtically, going from the TyTn screen to the 750v screen take all of a couple of days to get over, the 750v screen not great but does the job just fine, now I can use it as a phone, its just so easy, love it. I would never turn back, i loved my Treo 600 and 750v has put Treo back on track for me.
For me there no choice in the matter, 750v everytime.
took the plunge
So, went down to my local Vodafone business store yesterday and got the 750v. £50 for the phone on a 12 month contract at £25 per month - good deal.
Instant love - the form factor just can't be beat! it just feels right in your hand.
unlocked the phone and put in my t-mobile sim, set up the push email and everything works like a dream.
put in my favourite software and.......that's where it falls down (slightly!). that 240 x 240 screen resolution means that a couple of things just don't fit the screen size (space reclaimer and some of the wallpaper I use). is it a big deal?
not really. space reclaimer still works but you can't actually see how much space it's reclaimed. i've changed the wallpaper to one of my photos - looks great. pocket informant, spb backup and gprs monitor are fine. might put in memmaid or pocket mechanic.
big test will be when i get my 2gb mini sd card and install TomTom 6. looking forward to that?!
Good luck!
I hope the Treo works out well for you. I have had a TyTN from Vodafone UK for a while although have not been making serious use of it, and I borrowed a Treo from them on evaluation.
After three weeks I have just returned the Treo for a few very specific reasons (bear in mind that this is a business-driven evaluation):
1) BlackBerry Connect exists but is not supported yet by VF UK. I know this is true for the TyTN as well, but it would be a major driver for me to migrate my company from RIM devices.
2) After putting into silent ring using the top slider switch on a twice-daily basis, eventually the Treo does not make any audible ring or vibrate regardless of the setting. The only way to recover is a soft reset. A colleague who has a pre-production model has the same experience and thought it was because it's pre-prod; evidently not.
3) Microsoft VoiceCommand comes bundled..... Great idea, except that it's the US version. Recognition of names requires an American accent and dialling numbers direct by voice is all to pot as a result. I have followed this up with both Palm and MS but got nothing except confirmation on how to remove the bundled version, which otherwise cannot be uninstalled.
Battery life was reasonable, screen quality decent and Bluetooth performance with my Nokia CK7W car kit was the best of any device so far - absolutely no echo reported.
I have gone back to the TyTN but the lack of a decent charging holder means that I am still dependent on my Blue Angel for some applications.
Hope this helps!
The positive side of the Treo
Regarding the last 2 posts:
1. Tomtom 6.0 works like a charme on the Treo even with a 2 gig MiniSD. I even use TTtraffic without a problem.
2. I bought the Brodit carholder for the Treo 650 and it fits like a glove. (www.brodit.com: 968635 Active Holder, Tilt Swivel)
3. I haven't had the problem with " silent ring using the top slider switch on a twice-daily basis" the phone still rings without a problem. (I'm using the cingular though!)
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Regarding the last 2 posts:
1. Tomtom 6.0 works like a charme on the Treo even with a 2 gig MiniSD. I even use TTtraffic without a problem.
2. I bought the Brodit carholder for the Treo 650 and it fits like a glove. (www.brodit.com: 968635 Active Holder, Tilt Swivel)
3. I haven't had the problem with " silent ring using the top slider switch on a twice-daily basis" the phone still rings without a problem. (I'm using the cingular though!)
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thanks gpsenzo68 - i was wondering whether it was safe to get the Brodit Treo 650 carholder. Is that a passive or active holder you are using? Good to know about TomTom 6 as well .
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2) After putting into silent ring using the top slider switch on a twice-daily basis, eventually the Treo does not make any audible ring or vibrate regardless of the setting. The only way to recover is a soft reset. A colleague who has a pre-production model has the same experience and thought it was because it's pre-prod; evidently not.
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I've had that problem, but only once to date. I do restart the device at least once a day, though... after all, it's Windows!
Alarms don't go off when they're supposed to.
The storage card is not recognised after some (varying) length of time in stand-by ("off") mode, requiring the card to be taken out and reinserted.
3G reception is not the best and the device drops calls when switching from UMTS to GSM. I've set it to GSM now to get more reliable phone performance and only change manually to automatic band selection if I need to access the internet.
I finally ended up purchasing Palm Treo 750v on Ebay. Just waiting to receive it
I have been a long time hermes (tytn,8525) user and have recently given the 750v a try. Wow. Long story short, 750 wins hands down for my usage. I'm a heavy pda user and it is still worth it for me. I'll have a video comparison review on howardforums later this week.
video review up on howardforums.com in the ppc section
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video review up on howardforums.com in the ppc section
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Can you post a link? Thanks.
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Can you post a link? Thanks.
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HowardsForum > Pocket PC > Treo 750 Video review
Wasn't to hard to FIND.
Ive been using a HTC Wizard with PI. and I especially prefer the week view (7days).
I was wondering what the week view looks like on the Treo's square screen. How much information is visible?
can anybody post a screenshot?
I have PI running on my treo and it looks the same like on a regular Qvga screen, Only it looks a bit smaller. It shows the same amount of information.
I don't have any screenshot soft at the moment on my device, but will try this weekend to make a screenshot.
I used PI on my tytn and now on the treo and for me theres no difference in the way it looks.
Here is a sample of the Week view from PI
Just an FYI... PI has a built-in screenshot capturing tool.
In PI, go... Menu > Tools & Settings > Utilities > Screenshot
It saves it in your My Documents folder.
Hope this helps.
Sealos
thanks, looks pretty small.
Im looking for a new device and still doubting between the treo 750v and the HTC TyTn (Or MDA VarioII).
I used to have a MDA Vario, but it got stolen.
I like the larger screen, but I also like the front facing keyboard. I found myself getting annoyed with sliding out the keyboard all the time.
Is there anyone who went from a 'large' screen device to the treo 750? Do you miss the extra screen space?
I sold my tytn for a treo 750. I still don't regret it. the form factor of the treo is much better to me.
The tytn is a pretty good device, it got it all, except the simplicity of the treo.
My treo is also much faster then my tytn.
About the screen, indeed you have less space. It is smaller.
I noticed that i need less plugins for my today screen because the software from the treo is using the small screen very well.
So, no i don't miss the large screen from the tytn, i get more usability instead from the treo.
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I sold my tytn for a treo 750. I still don't regret it. the form factor of the treo is much better to me.
The tytn is a pretty good device, it got it all, except the simplicity of the treo.
My treo is also much faster then my tytn.
About the screen, indeed you have less space. It is smaller.
I noticed that i need less plugins for my today screen because the software from the treo is using the small screen very well.
So, no i don't miss the large screen from the tytn, i get more usability instead from the treo.
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1 agree with luminus. I never regretted selling my Tytn. The 750v is much more stable and is a pleasure to use. you get used to the screen size - really!
Any comments?
This is my question. I currently own a Hermes (ATT Unlocked 8525) for the US Tmobile company. I was wondering if there is much less slow down on the Palm 750 in windows mobile 6. I hate the Hermes only because of the slow down and lag I get some times and was wondering if the Palm 750 had that same problem.
Have you tried upgrading your Hermes to WM6? Increasing page pool, and other tweaks? I don't think Palm 750 would run faster than your device. Besides, it has 240x240 screen which has one tremendous drawback - lack of software compatibility.
OK.. Tell us why you love the Treo 750 with WM6 upgrade!
As for me, I love the fact that i can use the main nav keys to do everything.
I've tried the Apple IPhone and came back to my Treo 750 because its just so damn easy to use!!
My answer is simple: it's the most stable WM device I've ever used and the Treo 750 is the only truly one hand usable WM professionell phone I know.
Shure pure display, bio touch, what ever gadgets are fun to test at first, but when it comes to real life and all day usage, the Treo beats them. i.e. it does not matter if I walk, use it in the car - the device is quick and reliable - it just works. And entering text was never that simple.
I'm running the generic wm6 rom, using exchange all day long and tomtom up to 5 times a day. I've never experienced hang ups, missed calls due to system failures... even web browsing is quick and effectiv. Just wrote this reply on my treo.. ;-)
Just 100% satisfied and I will switch to the 800w if it will offer more ram and gps.
And you can use Mini SDHC 4GB, very good for entertaiment. Charge battery with USB very useful. The interface beautiful.
I've now owned a Treo 600 and a Treo 750. I went to the 600 from a Blackberry 957 (ooold schoool) and was reluctant since the BB did what it was designed for very well. However, once I got used to the tiny keyboard and learned all the other great things the Treo could do, I was hooked. Haven't looked back. Love my Treo 750 and WM6 makes it even more stable. However, with all the advances in touch technology, the Treo form factor is getting long in the tooth. I believe the iPhone style of UI (all touch - minimal HW buttons) is the future. Heck I can type just as easily with PocketCM Keyboard on my little Treo screen as I can with the HW KB (not that I do it that often). Obviously as a member of this forum I am not a fan of the iPhone as is since it has very limited "hackability" at this time, so am eagerly awaiting the next WM version or Android and a nice piece of hardware with which to take advantage of the new wave of UI.
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My answer is simple: it's the most stable WM device I've ever used and the Treo 750 is the only truly one hand usable WM professionell phone I know.
Shure pure display, bio touch, what ever gadgets are fun to test at first, but when it comes to real life and all day usage, the Treo beats them. i.e. it does not matter if I walk, use it in the car - the device is quick and reliable - it just works. And entering text was never that simple.
I'm running the generic wm6 rom, using exchange all day long and tomtom up to 5 times a day. I've never experienced hang ups, missed calls due to system failures... even web browsing is quick and effectiv
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totally agree with you!!
treo 750 and bb 8100 are the devices I use with more pleasure... clearly depending on what I have to do during the day
Why do I love my treo 750? Bc:
1.- It´s pretty small (there´re smaller devices but not like this one)
2.- It has a full-qwerty keyboard in the front (very useful to text, email and word quickly)
3.- Despiste its only 300mHz of processor, it can play videos just downloaded from emule, without converting them, or if I have time enough I can convert them to save more memory.
4.- It goes faster than my old qtek 2020i with its 520mHz processor and WM2003
5.- It´s one of more stable pocket pc phone edition i have ever had
I love her even more when I bought a micro SDHC 8GB (Sandisk) and try it with a minisd adapter....WORKS GREAT!!!
6.- Despite it has no wifi, I normally use vodafone real mail which push my mails and let me surf the net unlimmited.
7.- I read news on it using avantgo
8.- I listen to music, news & talks live thorugh HSDPA
9.- I even watch TV while I have time through my treo
10.- I´ve owned a lot of different devices and really loved them all:
- Palm IIIe (year 2000)
- Palm m100
- Palm Vx
- Palm m515
- HP iPaq 1910
- Hp iPaq 1930
- Hp iPaq 5555
- Hp iPaq rx3715
- Hp iPaq 4150
- Hp iPaq 2750
- Hp iPaq rx1940 (I think)
- Qtek 2020i
- Qtek S200
- HTC TyTN
- Qtek 9000
- PALM TREO 750v
But nothing like treo 750v. After all this time & models I realized that HP makes such a great devices and they all have a GREAT wifi signal if you compare with qtek/HTC.
HTC devices are pretty good too, but when I got the palm treo 750 everything changed. As I started my little steps with Palm, I came back home with the new treo 750, and never regret.
Hope Palm gets well soon, and let us feel and try even better devices. I prefer what Palm does, they normally don´t sell more than 2 or 3 new devices a year, and that´s good from my point of view. They should concentrate on what they do, and do it right (and people & users will THANK YOU)
Sorry for this long message but wanted to type a lot.
See u guys
I love the Treo 750 even more after leaving it for 2 days to try out a ATT 8925 Tilt. The til is so unstable and freezes. I had official Rom, custom ROm, Unbranded ROm. Doesnt matter the tilt lags compare to treo despite the 400mhz processor.
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HTC devices are pretty good too, but when I got the palm treo 750 everything changed.
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Treo 750 is an HTC phone. Palm had HTC make the phone!
I love the nice leathery/velvety feel on the back! Gives it a touch of class! =)
I love it since I could have blackberry functionality from this device. Even better.
One thing from WM 6, I haven't get my treo to do bluetooth connection DUN to my other phone as a modem.
I dont know why?
The Palm Treo 750 is an amazing little phone. I've used a number of WM devices before this one and never been entirely satisfied with the stability and functionality. The Treo 750 is the perfect WM device - stable, fast, versatile, easy to use. It just works day after day. It can't be beaten!