Palm have just launched the Treo 750 in Australia, it has HSPDA enabled in the ROM, maybe if someone gets that we can use the rom...?
Also, there was no confirmation from Palm Australia re: WM6 upgrade, but Palm Singapore has official confirmed it via a cnet Asia interview.
Palm will not be bringing wifi to Treos until battery technology becomes more advanced so we can easily run the cell radio and wifi radio at the same time for long periods of time without having to charge it every day
With 3G/HSDPA and lowering data rates I don't care about WiFi on my phone anymore. I have 200MB data for AU$29 per month, and its great. No messing around trying to connect to WiFi networks, and having to reconnect every time you turn the device off.
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I want to know why this happens. I already have a solution but I am more interested in the specifics of what is causing this. Keep in mind that this does not happen everywhere, but only at my home/vicinity (general square area/radius of about 1 mile)
This is the problem:
When my phone is set to AUTO in terms of band settings for data/voice, I experience a massive amount of dropped calls. I can barely hold a conversation because my call will drop every 2-7 minutes and it is very embarrassing when trying to conduct business.
Solution:
The solution I have found is to manually set the phone to force either GSM/EDGE or 3G, but not both. When I do this, my problem is solved 100%
SPECS:
Network: AT&T
Phones Tested: AT&T Tilt and AT&T Treo 750
I have this problem in areas where they haven't completed the upgrade to 3G yet. I suspect it drops because the compatability between 3G and Edge is none, the phone has to switch to different bandwidths that cause a quick but temporary loss of service, effectively dropping your calls.
I have seen an app that forces data connections to stay off, using this app in areas where it swtches between services might improve your issue.
My 9502 was sent off to the seller requesting a refund just over 2 weeks ago. Thay have finally decided that they can't replicate the problem and are sending it to I-Mate (again) to repair.
I can see me getting fobbed off here so I thought I'd try this survey. I know a lot of people on these forums reported returning their 9502 because of the bug where it won't search for signal when on standby or had general signal problems.
Please answer the poll question and maybe post where you live and which network operator you use.
Cheers.
No problems here !
No problems using my 9502 through TIM Brasil ! Where I live I have EDGE (and GPRS, of course) only for now (3G will reach my city soon), but I travel daily to a 3G/HSDPA covered area.
Cheers!
Carlos
No Problems here too
I am in Melbourne, Australia. Have had my 9502 for about 3 months and it has not missed a beat. I have noticed that when it can't find a GSM connection, it will switch to 3G. Which is ok by me. I have not loaded it up with too many apps, just some for my basic needs. Even when travelling I have no connection issues.
1. SPB Plus
2. SPB Shell
3. TomTom
4. Resco Keyboard
5. Fizz Traveller.
Cheers for this guys. Keep em coming!
In Sydney Australia (Telstra) and havn't had any signal problems (have had the 9502 for a few months). I was also in the US recently and global roamed onto AT&T and had no apparent issues there either.
It is kinda looking like this is a problem with the 9502 on UK frequencies. Or maybe its a problem which the Telstra ROM doesn't suffer from.
I flashed tot he 6.1 ROM and it still suffered with it. It really did render it useless as I travel a lot.
Either way, I wish they'd hurry up and fix it or replace my bloody device. It's been gone 3 weeks now (+ 2 weeks the first time).
Come on UK users! Surely some people on these forums must have a 9502.
I have a 9502 and it never suffered such problems - it was always perfectly reliable (well, as reliable as can be when you are on Tmobile UK!). I did not flash the 6.1 upgrade and am just about to sell it as I have moved to a Diamond (and am likely also to get my mits on a Touch Pro)!
apd said:
I have a 9502 and it never suffered such problems - it was always perfectly reliable (well, as reliable as can be when you are on Tmobile UK!). I did not flash the 6.1 upgrade and am just about to sell it as I have moved to a Diamond (and am likely also to get my mits on a Touch Pro)!
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Did you use 3G? And do you get good receiption where you live?
I think it s a problem that only affects people in low signal areas. In my home and in cities it is fine, but if I go somewhere with no signal or if signal drops for a few seconds it will not search again until awoken. I travel a whole lot meaning it spends a lot of time sat in my pocket with no signal.
I am on Vodafone and have noticed that they have appauling coverage which I think makes the problem much more noticable. I live in a 3G area and get full signal HSDPA in my house. This is true for almost the whole area I live in for about 5 miles in each direction, however there are absolutely loads of 'dead spots' where there is no signal whatsoever, or where signal comes and goes.
And where my girlfriend lives, signal will drop every 5 minutes or so. Not a problem with normal devices as they just search again and have signal again after 4 or 5 seconds. The 9502 does not do this unless I wake it up meaning most of the time I am uncontactable - especially at night when I am not awake to turn the thing on and off.
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Did you use 3G? And do you get good receiption where you live?
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I did use 3G and HSDPA (I use Direct Push so it is on permanently). I have terrible signal where i live (halfway down a steep hill in London) but it would only very rarely lose the connection. I would often have only one bar but that has been the same for all my phones. When it lost the connection, it would always regain it when I returned to a better position in the house.
As an additonal note to my previous post, in my work there are many buildings, and there are lots of spots with dead signal. When I pass through one of those areas, the 9502's green led stops flashing, but, as soon as I enter a signal covered area, it starts flashing again, of course meaning it has detected the radio signal.
If I wake it up right afterwards, as soon as I do it I see the signal bar and my operator's name, i.e. it has regained signal whilst in standby mode without problems.
Cheers!
Carlos
That's interesting. Now I'm wondering its something to do with Vodafone, or if it is specific to certain devices. I tried my 9502 set to auto and european but it still suffered, although I know this fixed the problem for people in other localities.
Here's something interesting that may or may not be related: I go to law school on Manchester Oxford Road, right near Oxford Road train station. My SE P990i has always been fine there and gets full 3G receiption on Vodafone. The 9502 also displayed full 3G signal, however it was completely unable to recieve calls and text messages or use the internet. If I walked 5 minutes towards Picadilly, or once I got to Deansgate (the next stop) on the train home it'd work again and text messages would start flooding in. I did this every week for the 3 months I had it and never once managed to use any radio functions on Oxford Road! Bizarre.
When sitting in my office at home with my x7510 and HTC TyTN both cradled on my desk it is often the case that the TyTN will be showing a 3G signal whilst the x7510 is only showing an E. I took both to my nearest AT&T store and they were glad to swop out the SIM card on the x7510 for a new one. However, the AT&T system did not recognize the x7510 by reference to the IMEI number, whilst the TyTN was recognized as being a 8525. Consequently my TyTN was listed in their system as a 3G compatible device, but the x7510 was listed as only an Edge/GPRS capable device.
They recommended that I contact AT&T technical on the phone as they did not have the capacity to change the status of the phone locally.
Does anyone know whether it matters what is listed on AT&T's system. In other places (at my work office) I can get a U and sometimes an H on the x7510, but as I type this the TyTN shows 3G and the x7510 just a E, and they are both less than a foot apart and the x7510 is closer to the window!
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When sitting in my office at home with my x7510 and HTC TyTN both cradled on my desk it is often the case that the TyTN will be showing a 3G signal whilst the x7510 is only showing an E. I took both to my nearest AT&T store and they were glad to swop out the SIM card on the x7510 for a new one. However, the AT&T system did not recognize the x7510 by reference to the IMEI number, whilst the TyTN was recognized as being a 8525. Consequently my TyTN was listed in their system as a 3G compatible device, but the x7510 was listed as only an Edge/GPRS capable device.
They recommended that I contact AT&T technical on the phone as they did not have the capacity to change the status of the phone locally.
Does anyone know whether it matters what is listed on AT&T's system. In other places (at my work office) I can get a U and sometimes an H on the x7510, but as I type this the TyTN shows 3G and the x7510 just a E, and they are both less than a foot apart and the x7510 is closer to the window!
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What shows in the ATT System does not matter my Athena does not show in the system and I get 3G speeds. Possible that the TyTN has a more sensitive radio? Or maybe the 7510 did not step up to 3g automatically?
actually I'm almost in the same situation as u do, my kaiser gave me about 2 bars of 3G when I'm inside the office at work, but my athena gives me only edge in the same place.
i don't think it's anything wrong with AT&T's network but it's the athena itself. the antena my be a little bit low on sensitivity than the kaiser.
or it could also be a radio issue or a combination of both.
well thinking about it, it could well be a network issue, because would usually get 2 bar edge in the office, i called them up and it went up a couple levels then to engineers and now I'm getting 3 bars edge and sometimes 1 or 2 bars 3G.
If i go by the window or outside and catch the 3G then head back inside it stays a lot lot longer now.
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actually I'm almost in the same situation as u do, my kaiser gave me about 2 bars of 3G when I'm inside the office at work, but my athena gives me only edge in the same place.
i don't think it's anything wrong with AT&T's network but it's the athena itself. the antena my be a little bit low on sensitivity than the kaiser.
or it could also be a radio issue or a combination of both.
well thinking about it, it could well be a network issue, because would usually get 2 bar edge in the office, i called them up and it went up a couple levels then to engineers and now I'm getting 3 bars edge and sometimes 1 or 2 bars 3G.
If i go by the window or outside and catch the 3G then head back inside it stays a lot lot longer now.
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For my Athena I know the radio ROM can contribute to this situation, since I don't have a 7510 is there a radio upgrade for your device? If so it may solve this problem.
No Radio upgrade to my knowledge for the x7510. Lennie to clarify, you did contact AT&T Engineer support and got something done to improve the signal?
Make sure you are using radio rom 1.58. My 3G sensitivity and speeds went up dramatically when I upgraded to 1.58.
Thanks for the input. For clarification the x7510 comes with radio 1.58 pre-installed.
Odd. I wonder if you have a hardware issue. With my 7501, after I upgraded to 1.58 I now get 3G/H signals where I never could before, deep inside a steel and concrete building.
I have the network type and GSM/UMTS band both set to Auto.
I have a sprint touch pro, it was fine for the first day or so including active sync always connected.
Then I noticed it would get really warm and the battery was draining very fast, long story short but on a hard reset with only CMP battery monitor installed (which was not installed when the problem first presented itself) the unit uses between 0-100 mah normally but if I have activesync on always connected or even no active sync profile but manually enable the data connection it goes to 200-400 (average around 300 mah) causing it to heat up, super fast battery drain, etc.
One thing I noticed is that it is flipping between EVDO and 1x a lot too I am not sure if this is the cause?
I have several other phones (mougl, 6700 etc) all which would stay on EVDO without a problem here. Is it a defective unit?
Also to note my battery can train from about 100% to dead in a few hours when the data connection is active, vs day+ without.
I also am having a similar problem as the thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=2851168
where basically while in a strong evdo area it will rarely connect over evdo and if it does it generally will break the connection within a few minutes and default back to 1x. I think this may be the cause but it still doesn't explain why this is happening.
Mine seems to be having the same sort of issues, my battery, on average is only lasting me about 6-8 hours, I keep bluetooth and wifi turned off. I just got the phone less than a week ago, so it is seeing abnormally heavy use, but I'm really trying to make it last me a day and this isn't looking good so far.
Keeping background programs closed (except glight and gyrator)
Signal for this area is strong, 3g everywhere. I used to be on Helio (using Sprint's network), and my 3g signal never dropped. This phone, when sending a text message, the box switches to 1x, the text sends, then it goes back to Ev. It's the same for making calls. I'm not "dropping" 3g I guess, it's just switching off to make a cell transmission. Browsing sites or using data keeps it connected to 3g.
ROM version: 1.03.651.3
Radio version: 1.03.15F
Now, you think us Sprint Touch Pro users will possibly see a new ROM and Radio soon? I want to try reflashing the ROM, but don't know where to get another stock Sprint one, and I'm positive a GSM radio won't work.
If only the touch pro had 1/3 the following the Diamond seems to :/
Yea I don't think that its due to any programs, at this point I run a hard reset with nothing loaded but the battery monitor and no wifi/bt. As for sprint roms nuechem will be releasing a new rom tonight (see is blog at nuerom.com ) you can flash over.
I think the problem is related to the network however as in 3 different locations now as soon as I go to use a very good strength evdo signal it will drop to 1x for an unknown reason.
I have an x7510 and have used it successfully with a Telcel (Mexico) 3g sim card down there, though since Mexico isn't in the Connections country presets, I had to use web-provided parameters. I suspected that I wasn't on quite the same network as when I put the Telcel sim into the purchased ZTE626 usb 3g aircard and everything was automatic, and a dealer tech guy there agreed, but who knows. (By the way, if you're vacationing in Mexico and want economical 3g, look up the Internet Amigo plan on the Telcel web site. It's 1, 3, 7, 15 and 30 days blocks of time, not annual subscription. Perfect for tourists. The Customer Service places typically have the old brochures lying around, so print the current pricing off the web before you go. They do all this for USB or Express cards, and for smartphones of all types.)
SO, here I am in the USA again, and for kicks, I took the X7510 into my Tmo dealer and they reassigned me a newer sim (the difference? she said it was 3g capable) and we put it in the X7510 and tried it. I couldn't believe they were willing to try it. And of course, using the Connections automatic setting, I got Edge. However, I couldn't help wondering about some things:
1. Why can't I get downloading on 2100 3g, just downloading? Is it because the upload handshaking etc can't switch to Edge?
2. Is it true that if I had a Tmo 3g phone, such as the 3g Dash, this 'no difference but it's newer and has 3g on it' (which they let me keep, I should add) my data plan (el cheapo grandfathered 20$ for unlimited incl hotspots) would now do Tmo 3g? I actually asked her about this and she indicated the 3g aspect of this or that data plan is not more costly.
3. When looking at the automatically configured Tmo Connections settings, the setting for type of connection had very little available, just CellularGPRS&3G. When I'd been working with the Telcel sim, all sorts of combinations of frequencies popped up. The preset still says wap.voicestream.com. Is there another group of Manual settings I could use to get my half 3g on the X7510?
4. Perhaps the most interesting, since the X7510 has USB host capability, is there a way to use my 4in1 cable, a Tmo USB aircard and my new Tmo 3g sim to make the X7510 recognize and use the USB card? I do like the X7510 for its huge screen...
Thanks to anyone who will help, or who finds the Telcel info useful.