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hi guys,
I am so pissed at HTC about the screen resolution and colors on my MDA II. I think we all have the same problem. Does anyone know how to contact HTC to ask for help, or some fix or upgrade?
We should do something about that!
Does anybody have a solution, of how to change that screen colors? it's worse than my xda I.
HTC-guys, i'm really disappointed at you guys...
Ive never found my XDA2's screen to be of poor quality, its much better than all my previous colour screen devices, including the SE P900's which was a nice screen.
People moan how some images have patches of what look like mono colour, or a colour thats been used to fill in the space. That is because the screen is only 65k, the colour of the image is higher than what the XDA2 can reproduce. All 65k screen phones and PDA's have the same problem. Wait until PDA's have 16.8 million colours, then you'll be happier ! :wink:
Maby you have a faulty unit, my screen is one of the best I've seen so far... much better then any other mobile I've seen todate. Maby you should try and get a replacment unit or get a new screen installed through warranty...
Hope you get your issue sorted out..
The XDA has a reflective screen while the XDA II has a transflective screen which is much brighter and looks better. The backlight of the XDA is actually on the side of the screen while the backlight of the XDA II is really at the back. This makes the XDA II screen brighter. The colors on an XDA will not exactly match the colors on an XDA II simply because the XDA II has a brighter screen. I've had two Pocket PCs with reflective screens before I got my XDA II. The XDA II screen definitely looks better.
it's not the brightness that i'm talking about. of course it's brighter than the xda I. it's just i compare to my ipaq 4150 and i see a huge difference. the colors are so much darker on my device. it's got to do something with the contrast maybe. i read on this forum that the himalaya units don't use their full capacities when it comes to the screen. there must be something to change, right?
now what??
resolution or colours ?
because i never heard anybody complain about the res before
Maybe you should compare your XDA II with another XDA II. Your unit might have a defective screen.
screen
i have had pocket pc`s since they have come out included are all the ipaq range from 3600 to my present one the ipaq 3970 which i still have i find the screen on my xda2 much better than my ipaq 3970
i think that the xda2 screen is a bit better then xda1 but imho it's fare from 16bit quality of my other lcd displays
okay guys, been reading up for the past few weeks on the lastest PDA phones. i need to get a new phone, preferably windows mobile, and preferably wm6. here are my requirements:
1. 400mhz cpu or faster
2. 2 mp camera or higher
3. GPS - MUST have
4. tri-band GSM, wifi, video capture
5. small phone
okay those are absolutes. my preferences:
6. keyboard or numeric keypad
7. large screen
8. windows mobile 6
9. long battery life
10. 262k screen, 2nd camera for conferencing
more or less, the N95 kind of meets most of the requirements--except that the cpu is kinda slow and its not windows mobile. though the good thing about it is that its got video-out, where i can put a presentation on the phone and plug the cable onto the projector.
now, im trying to debate between:
a) the g-smart i300 (no keypad)
b) m700 (65k colors, side keypad)
c) P3600 (65k colors, no keyboard)
d) asus p535 (65k colors, no keypad)
e) X800 (65k colors, no keyboard)
f) asus p526 (65k colors, 200mhz cpu)
g) JAQ4 (65k colors, 200mhz cpu)
h) XDA orbit (65k colors, 200mhz cpu, no keypad)
i) hp 6915 (1.3mp, 65k colors, BIG phone, no upgrade to WM6)
as it stands, the N95 kind of trumps everyone with a 5mp camera, 30fps video capture, keypad, 256k colors, video-out, and relatively small form-factor.
the wife has the nokia, so i dont want another nokia and im partial to windows mobile (has to sync with outlook, nokia has issues). ive also used the N95 and it can be slow at times and can hang. otherwise, its a dream phone except that it doesnt run windows mobile.
the comparisons above make it look like the ETEN is going to win. ive owned an M500 before, and didnt like the overall experience (though the phone was kinda okay) due the the bugs, signal reception, and cheap chassis. so im kinda wary about taking an M700, though it looks like the only real and closest option to my requirements. other than the M700, i would have gone for the HP except that they announced there will be no wm6 upgrade (the M700 has the upgrade).
what do you guys think? any other options or other ideas i may have missed? any reviews of the abovementioned phones to dissuade or persuade me?
btw, the E90 is kinda too big for me, though i like it. its also not wm.
http://www.gsmarena.com/nokia-phones-1.php
Nice first post ....
Ok sarcasm mode off.
I am sure you will get lots of recommendations on which phone to go for, but in my experience the only person who can decide this is you. You have a very demanding list of requirements and sound as if you just needed to write down your thoughts to help you decide.
Personally I have an MDA Vario II (Hermes) with a TOMTOM bluetooth GPS unit and this works well for me.
If you need the *best* built-in GPS, the P3600 isn't the way to go either. Also, it's pretty useless for A2DP, should you ever need it.
So maybe the upcoming Kaiser for AD2P since its native WM6? Same gps module as the P3600 though (not that it's that the gps is that bad, just not the BEST ie. SIRF III). It is supposed to be available in late June, or July.
there is only one good phone on the market today, but impossible to buy.. The benq p51 ..good cpu, enough ram/rom, gps, wifi, bt, big enough screen (320*240)..but most important a full qwerty keyboard and hotpluggable sdcard. 1.3 megapixel camera is enough cause 2.0 megapixel doesn't make that big a differents. And no i don't want a 240*240 screen. It's bollocks when you have to see a streaming movie.
umts and other high speed connections is not done cause not payable in europe. Waaaay to expensive. Just for a few business users.
-my first pda was dell axim x5 ..still a great pda..use it for streaming movies and occasionally surfing in my bed. still in great shape.
-now i have a htc p3300 ..very small..bad cpu for streaming, bad camera, screen is to small for confort.the only advantage is build in gps.
- now i want the benq p51 and i don't have any problem with it if it's the last one on earth it has everything i need.
all the others pda phone from htc and other brands are missing something from my wishlist
the benq p51 is one of it's kind but like i said..impossible to find and buy
greetz
Why it is not payable in Europe for umts?
At least T-Mobile NL, we pay fixed monthly for HSDPA access:
https://www.t-mobile.nl/persoonlijk...internet_email/wat_heb_je_nodig/tarieven.aspx
9.95 euro for 64 Kbps
19.95 euro for 192 Kbps
...
Unlimited access !
And without subscription is 0.24 euro per 100 KB ... or 2.4 euro per MB which is quite cheap.
kasperke said:
there is only one good phone on the market today, but impossible to buy.. The benq p51 ..good cpu, enough ram/rom, gps, wifi, bt, big enough screen (320*240)..but most important a full qwerty keyboard and hotpluggable sdcard. 1.3 megapixel camera is enough cause 2.0 megapixel doesn't make that big a differents. And no i don't want a 240*240 screen. It's bollocks when you have to see a streaming movie.
umts and other high speed connections is not done cause not payable in europe. Waaaay to expensive. Just for a few business users.
-my first pda was dell axim x5 ..still a great pda..use it for streaming movies and occasionally surfing in my bed. still in great shape.
-now i have a htc p3300 ..very small..bad cpu for streaming, bad camera, screen is to small for confort.the only advantage is build in gps.
- now i want the benq p51 and i don't have any problem with it if it's the last one on earth it has everything i need.
all the others pda phone from htc and other brands are missing something from my wishlist
the benq p51 is one of it's kind but like i said..impossible to find and buy
greetz
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Thanks everyone for your thoughts.
I'll probably narrow it down to:
a) the g-smart i300 (no keypad)
b) m700 (65k colors, side keypad)
so which one do you think would be a better trade-off? higher screen color or side-keypad?
I need the keypad so when im driving i can punch numbers; a touchscreen works like hell when you do that. I need the color screen for playing videos and camera work. I guess the more important one is the keypad. Any bad reviews for the M700 from our current users? how about the gigabyte?
Forget those 2 ... and take a look into HTC Kaiser ..
htc trinity?
"high speed connections is not done cause not payable in europe. Waaaay to expensive. Just for a few business users."
not here
and i believe prices varies alot! in europe
here it's 1euro pr MB if you dont go flatrate
gogol said:
Forget those 2 ... and take a look into HTC Kaiser ..
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3MP camera, 2nd camera, I like it. slide-out keyboard, not too fond of that but I'll work. nice ROM but CPU not that great. That puts it a little above the M700. how is the NMEA 0183 GPS compared to the SiRF Star III of the M700?
bbobeckyj said:
htc trinity?
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yeah, as laid out the P3600 has 65k screen and no keyboard. id like one with keyboard/keypad.
Kaiser
is nice
though i think it's a bit ugly
and thick
and seem to be in the universal replacement
as in being closer to Advantage then a real pda phone
but apart from those issues it's everything i want in a phone
im not really one that cares for looks as long as all the functionality is there. the kaiser lacks screen resolution, otherwise its pretty good.
im now thinking about the HTC Nike, comparing whether its better to have a keypad than keyboard. i absolutely NEED the keypad, as in punching numbers while driving; but id also like a keyboard for when im doing wifi outdoors.
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=736
yeah nike is sweet but i just know that one day what ever stop the slider thing from going all the way and sending the top part flying and hitting a busdriver in the eye so he run his bus into a full school of handicap'd kids will brake
Its funny I have the same dilema I was thinking of the two I like the i300 because its smaller but no keypad but the m700 is bigger and slower. So I am pushing more to the i300 which one did you pic? Also I like that the i300 has internal message and windows 6 update. But the m700 has a bigger screen and I can watch more movies....
Hey guys, was just wondering... Most new HTC phones look awfully similar, just a somewhat different chassis and some random memory upgrade. Does anyone know if they change more stuff "under the hood" that isn't shown in the specs? I'm talking about better screens (brighter, higher contrast etc), faster memory and so on.
For example, I've got a TyTN atm that I love, but I've always thought the screen is a bit washed out and not as bright as most other phones. Also there is quite a lot of backlight bleed on it. I know there are hacks (vijay's stuff) to make the screen brighter, but I guess I wonder if HTC has done anything on the newer models? Mainly I'm tempted to get the Touch Cruise when it comes out with T-Mobile in the UK. Has anyone compared these two LCDs? Since the CPU speed is virtually the same, does that mean the phones are as fast or has HTC done other hardware changes to the Cruise to speed it up?
I guess what I want as a more responsive HTC phone with an iPhone quality display
Unfortunately Pocket PC displays aren't that good for the moment. At least for the qVGA ones. But VGA displays support high resolution of 640x480 and thats better than an iPhone or any others. These VGA devices are usually huge and heavy except for fre Eten models which sport VGA display on qVGA size! If you go for Eten, you cannot expect much customisation as xda-dev is away from them But eten makes good custom ROMs themselves..
Regards,
Carty..
Yeah, but I'm not just talking about resolution and DPI, what about colour reproduction and contrast? Besides, I can't get Eten phones with T-Mobile UK
And, does anyone know if the ROM/RAM read/write speeds has changed over the past few years? My _old_ HTC Tornado seems to have the same R/W speeds as my TyTN...
all pda makers oem their screen from various panel makers
and if prizing change they get other panels so it can variate even
between the same pda bought on different times of the year
about speed then it's pretty much up to the interfaces of the varous cpu's
omap, intel, samsung, Qualcomm
both features and speeds variate
my advice is to look at some benchmarks pocket mechanics can benchmark
and google have tons of hits on benchsmarks of pda's
yeah please
Hi all - thanks for such an informative forum! I'm looking to replace my beloved aging (and dying) Dell AximX50v, and the info at this site is very helpful.
I took this photo at my AT&T store, comparing the google homepage on the Axim's VGA screen, the iPhone, and the Tilt (the Touch Pro will have VGA resolution, but the screen size will be the same, I think).
The photo overemphasizes iPhone's brightness, just because it was directly below the camera lens and the other two devices were at an angle to the camera (the camera was close to the devices).
Touch Pro specs are awesome, but even the iPhone's screen is smaller than the x50v's...sigh. Why can't we have a great tool AND eye candy??!
Be seeing you,
The Duck
cant be sure but are you sure the other two phones were not using dimmed screen, i know for a fact that th diamond and my old Orbit has a significantly better screen brightness then those.
Hey, Dazza - no, the screens weren't dimmed. As a matter of fact, the photo posted above was the 2nd picture I took because the Tilt did dim the screen just as I took my first shot - here's what it looked like dimmed!
While the iPhone's screen was brightest, there's no question that both the Axim and the HTC screens looked substantially brigher than shows up in this photo. I can see a substantial difference on my Axim if I look at the screen straight on and if I look at it at even a very slight angle. When I got close to the 3 devices for the picture, the angle of the lens to screen didn't do any favors to the Axim or the HTC.
My purpose in sharing the photo was to illustrate screen SIZES though - there's a big difference between the Axim, the nearly same size iPhone, and that of the HTC! 'Natch, all are loads better than my Razr V3xx screen, though!
Be seeing you,
The Duck
The screen of the tilt still looks quite dim (although you said it looked brighter in real life.
Are you sure you also put the screen brightness on highest? By default, my TP adjusts its brightness according to the environment lighting.
I've uploaded some pics (the ones with my laptop (Asus G1S, full brightness) in the background are alternated between autoadjust/full brightness)
http://www.sanderd.be/public/htctp/screenbrightness/
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SanderD
I hear you! I love my Tilt, and have been looking at the Touch Pro as a good upgrade just to have my VGA back.
Having used the x50v, and just recently retiring my x51v, I understand what you mean by screen size. It would be nice if HTC and the others would make us spoiled by true PDAs something with a real screen.
I work with a guy who uses an HP PDA that has a 4" screen. It is absolutely wonderful to work off of. The only offering from HTC that is close, is the 5" Advantage, and is overkill for most.
Well I still have my glorious LOOX 720 and I can tell you, its screen is great (and even compared to the other VGA devices of the time, if you remember the tests), BUT, I easily moved to Touch Pro anyway.
ah, that would actually make sence, sorry i was bit stupid there, viewing angles!
Obviously need to exercise that part of my brain some more.
Hi!
I'd like to replace my old and slow HTC Kaiser with something better. But what the hell, all these new hi-res phones seems to cause quick eye strain and headache. It does not matter is I decrease brightness or change colour scheme, it just seems to be tied to DPI. Or maybe WM phone makers do something to their screens?
For example:
HTC Kaiser - 2.8" 320x240 -OK
SE Satio - 3.5" 640x360 - OK
Nokia N97 - 3.5" 640x360 - OK
Nokia N97 Mini - 3.2" 640x360 - OK
SE Xperia X10 Mini - 2.5" 320x240 - OK
HTC Touch Pro 2 - 3.6" 800x480 - bad
Samsung B7610 - 3.8" 800x480 - bad
SE Xperia X2 - 3.2" 800x480 - very bad
LG eXpo - 3.2" 800x480 - very bad
Anyone go the same problem?
Edit: My eyes are OK, I don't wear glasses. But I noticed I don't like hi-res notebook screens, if I can choose I work with 19" LCD, at home I have 26" LCD (both has relatively large pixels).
Not sure but this never happens to me. I been using hi-res phones for about a year now. My x10 is 854x 400
Sent from my X10a
I watch movies on mine and I've never noticed any strain with my old TP2, Kaiser, or HD2.
i see where ur coming from , would recommend a 4"+ phone like desire hd commin sometime this yr
as far as it comes off for me hes talkin about text reading , guys , not movie watching lol
i had
320*208 @ 2.8" a blessing to read , altho pixelated a bit (still beautiful colors tho)
320*240 @ 2.6" much worse to read , also unpleasant web browsing cuz of the small screen
800*480 @ 3.2" very nice images , graphics , PITA to read
800*480 @ 4.1" best of both worlds , almost as readable as the first in list , and badass imagery
Thanks souljaboy.
Well it occurs to me even when just working in the standard environment, quite strange.
4" is way too high, I'll probably have to either keep my old Kaiser or get something with Symbian, although it is far less customisable compared to WM :-/