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I just got a QTEK 8300 almost new but I got also an issue about the power management: after the display time out (all kinds of value), it seems it gets sleepy deeper and deeper and at the end, I cann't get it work at all: no key press can wake up, even the power on/off key, nor the incoming call, nor managed applications such as IE or WMPlayer. The led near the power button is blinking. The only way I found is take the battery off and put it again
If I set the display time out with "Never", it works well. If I set another value but with the charger, it's also OK
The issue exists for all ROM versions I tested: original when I bought, others like: wm6-for-tornado-perfect-english-edition-20070810, Build_5.2.1616.18120_____v3.7, wm6-for-tornado-perfect-chinese-song-edition-20070819, Tornado_WM6_Platinum_Edition. I will also try the LINUX version
It seems a hardware problem, I'm looking for a workaround: is it possible to setup something simulating the presence of charger ?
Anyone have a good idea ?
Thanks
How exactly do you power down a Universal other than removing the battery? The "power" button only dims or switches off the display. Is there a way to make it really switch off the device?
PDA's running Windows Mobile are not designed to be powered off.
You can turn off all radio (wireless, GSM, BT), you can turn off the screen, but you can't actually turn off the device itself.
This is to keep your tasks and calendar running, otherwise it wouldn't make sense, as you could forget to turn on your device to be altered to a scheduled event.
But yes, it can be a pain. In my case, I own several phones running Windows Mobile and what I do is to periodically recharge them.
Failing to do so could in my opinion harm the built-in battery designed to keep essential data alive, when you swap your battery.
If you want to store your device for a long period (months or years), you should consider removing the main battery. Still you can suffer from a leaking internal battery. Don't quote me on this, though.
I prefer to recharge unused devices every month at least.
Cheers,
vma
Incorrect. PDAs running WM can be switched off
and you can turn the entire device off. There are ROMs that include the power off option that will turn the device off completely. I think the proggie is called PC Shut Off, have to find the exact name. I have the shut off function on my Elf and Wizard shuts off just fine. You get a warning that you may lose any unsaved info etc.
For longer storage options take the battery out.
Who wants to turn off their Uni!!!?
I have never turned off in 4 years, never!
If I dont want to recieve a call: Ignore
If I dont wanna hear sound: mute
If I dont want to have any comms on: I turn it off
Just my opinion...
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I have owned and still own several WM devices. The Uni remains the only one I cannot power down. When you press and hold the power button on the Touch Pro, it powers down after a prompt. The same with Advantage, and the TyTN 2, all of which I still own. Indeed, the Uni is the only WM device I have used (and still use) which uses what should be the power-down function to dim the display - a totally useless function in my view!
By the way, on many flights, you are told to completely switch off all electronic devices - not just put them on "flight" mode, during take-off and landing. With a Uni, how do you comply?
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By the way, on many flights, you are told to completely switch off all electronic devices - not just put them on "flight" mode, during take-off and landing. With a Uni, how do you comply?
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I simply turn off all comms and push the off button! that´s it
And any plane has going down doing this, and I travel a lot!
Nothing happens believe me
psShutXP
@enigma1nz I think you mean psShutXP. I tested it. When I use the option "Turn off" the device is in normal "sleep-mode".
Powering down the Universal
orb3000 said:
I simply turn off all comms and push the off button! that´s it
And any plane has going down doing this, and I travel a lot!
Nothing happens believe me
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Many of us know that these days planes do not crash because there is a mobile phone that is not switched off. But I am talking about compliance with instructions. I still believe it is a design flaw in the Universal. I have been hoping someone would cook a ROM that makes the power button to really power down, but it seems none as yet.
Earlier devices doesn't support complete power off because of the HW design. But you can do it in latest devices.
Just think about the power supply model of AT and ATX PC's...
I've searched for this one but can't find any mention of it...
I'm finally switching back to an o2 Serra / Touch Pro after they finally admitted to having some in stock again! (Not through sales channels though, and it took a five page letter complaining about their Customer Service!).
Anyway, over the last 3 months I've had to make do with an SE xPeria X1.
The one thing about the X1 (other than the WVGA screen) that I preferred with the X1 was that you could hit the power button to turn the screen off and ActiveSync (and therefore MyMobiler) would stay connected. Nice!
Is there any way to make the Touch Pro do the same?
Cheers,
FM
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I've searched for this one but can't find any mention of it...
I'm finally switching back to an o2 Serra / Touch Pro after they finally admitted to having some in stock again! (Not through sales channels though, and it took a five page letter complaining about their Customer Service!).
Anyway, over the last 3 months I've had to make do with an SE xPeria X1.
The one thing about the X1 (other than the WVGA screen) that I preferred with the X1 was that you could hit the power button to turn the screen off and ActiveSync (and therefore MyMobiler) would stay connected. Nice!
Is there any way to make the Touch Pro do the same?
Cheers,
FM
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Find a program that only shuts the screen off like HandyMenu.
The power button puts the phone in standby.
I use Pocket controller to view the phone on my PC and use Haandy Menu to turn off the screen.
Is there much difference in power consumption between standby and just screen off?
What I'm thinking is, is it a good idea to change the function of the power button (I know there are tools to do that) to only switch off the screen in normal use as well or am I going to just make the short battery life more of an issue?
Cheers,
FM
I might have missed the point here, but why would you only want to turn the screen off in normal use?
I can understand not wanting the screen on (in line of sight) if its in a cradle syncing all day, but unless you're wanting to have programs running & working all day (gps mapping something i guess) i cant see any advantage.
Finally, i'm not sure if you can unmap the power button, you can almost certainly re-map it, but that may not remove the original function (i cant test today, mine's off for repair).
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The one thing about the X1 (other than the WVGA screen) that I preferred with the X1 was that you could hit the power button to turn the screen off and ActiveSync (and therefore MyMobiler) would stay connected. Nice!
Is there any way to make the Touch Pro do the same?
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I've often wondered the same thing. My phone sits on ActiveSync all day at work with the screen un-necessarily on. There has to be a fix other than a paid application...
Essentially I'd like to replicate the power button function of the SE X1 on the Touch Pro.
The X1 seems to only power off the screen rather than going into standby - ie all apps keep running, bluetooth and wifi stay connected etc.
This means that when the phone is connected using MyMobiler or similar the screen can be off as I am displaying the screen contents on my PC screen.
Rather than having a seperate function to switch the screen off (I'm going to try EdgeWat PocketPC Utils for that), it would be nice if the power button could be mapped to just switch the screen off.
My concern is that if I swap the functionality of the power button (their do seem to be a few apps that allow you to re-assign the power button funtion) I won't just be using it this way when the phone is connected to a PC, I will ALWAYS be just switching the screen off. So, when I am out and about would doing this cause a big increase in battery drain?
-FM
And I would guess this functionality must be possible in software as it seem the Pandora client does it when you are running it:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=534319&page=7
-FM
Well my HTC Fuze works fine for about a year and half. However, idk how or why now my HTC Fuze power button on the top is not working. The only way to make it go to sleep mode if I let my phone turn of by itself in 1 min. Also, the only way to turn it on by slide the phone.
If anyone might know what cause the problem please help me.
Get xda shutdown or a similar app to turn the device off. There are a bunch of software options for putting the device to sleep, turning off the dispay, and shutting it down.
Same here but...
Same here but....
I have xda shutdown already, and when I Shutdown the phone it turn on again by itself.
I'm having the same exact problem! My Fuze has worked great for two years and all of a sudden a few days ago, the power button wont work. And my battery drains like crazy! It'll only last me 4 hours max... Any fixes on this? I've scoured the net and have seen that people have similar problems as this before; however, I haven't seen any fixes on it yet......
Possible solution power button problem Touch pro/Fuze?
I had the same problem on my Touch Pro, but now my power button seems to work again. I thought the problem might have to do something with my sim or my sd-card. The possibility of the sim as root of the problem was mentioned on this forum somewhere. The micro-sd card was just a guess. I had a lot of programs installed directly on the card, so when I did a hard-reset, these were still on there. If the problem would be on the micro-sd card, a hard reset would not help.
What I did was this. I removed the micro-sd card, the battery and the sim. I just pulled them out, since I wasn't able to turn the device off properly.
After that I only put back the battery and the device turned on automatically or I did it with the reset button on the bottom of my tp (I don't remember). Of course it showed the missing sim icon on top of the screen when turned on. The power button still didn't function at this moment.
I was a bit disappointed and inserted the sim, micro-sd card and battery again (I believe in this order). Lately, because of the power button problem, my tp turned on once the battery was inserted but this time it didn't. So I was pissed off that now my device wouldn't even turn on.
But to my surprise I could turn my tp on with te power button. Right now I can use the button just like before, it works fine!
Because I only tried this a few minutes ago I cannot tell you anything about the battery drain some of you and I experienced. And ofcourse I can't tell you if this is this is a permanent fix. I'm afraid to do a reset right now
I don't know why this worked for me and if it will work for you, but you can at least give it a shot right?
In short, what I did was this:
Pull out battery, sim and micro-sd card
Put back in the battery
Device will turn on automatically or turn on device with a reset (it will show the missing sim icon on top of screen)
Wait untill device is turned on properly
Pull out battery
Insert sim, micro-sd card and battery again
Turn on device with power button
If it won't work, maybe you can change the order of removing/inserting battery, sim and micro-sd card.
Good luck!
I was shocked to find a thread here of exactly the same issue I have, on the first page :O Few months back the power button stopped working altogether, so I resorted to using AEButton Plus to map double end call as the suspend power button, but now I have the issue of not being able to turn my phone off as whenever I do, the phone just turns itself back on again! At first I thought it was an issue with the internal mechanisms of the hardware button itself being jammed in place, but after reading this thread I'm starting to have doubts. I also experienced the battery drain problem with the phone rarely lasting 6 hours in standby, although a recent hard-reset and it shows that the battery drainage is around 170mAh with the screen on.
Been trying the above solution but to no avail ;( the phone keeps turning on by itself whenever I insert the battery, no matter the order.
All seems to you all have a HARDWARE problem.
Did you talking/using your PDA on rain/snow?
Maybe it make a some kind of short circuit?
Probobly the best way is carry your PDA to a service...
Yeah I've been pretty sure it's a hardware problem. I've hard-resetted and reflashed different ROMs and yet the problem persists. I don't remember getting the TP wet at all, but who knows. I don't know of any HTC service centers around here (Brisbane, Australia), so I've been looking for a way to fix this myself. No luck yet.
If you have skills to open Touch Pro you can probably do it at home.
Probably you must change flex:
http://cgi.ebay.com/Flex-Cable-Part...619562?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item3cb2d93eaa
This is not my item, I just simply shows how it looks this item.
I had the same problem.
My solution seems a bit unorthodox but it has always worked for me.
Slide your phone open, and flip it so it is facing screen down. You will see there is space between the power button and the phone. Put your mouth near that opening and breathe for 30 seconds to a minute. If the power button isn't working by the next day, repeat the process. The condensation from your breath does..well...something. And presto chango, it works again. The power button issue has happened about 3 times to me and doing this has always fixed it without fail.
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My solution seems a bit unorthodox but it has always worked for me.
Slide your phone open, and flip it so it is facing screen down. You will see there is space between the power button and the phone. Put your mouth near that opening and breathe for 30 seconds to a minute. If the power button isn't working by the next day, repeat the process. The condensation from your breath does..well...something. And presto chango, it works again. The power button issue has happened about 3 times to me and doing this has always fixed it without fail.
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In exhaust is moisture.
And then people say that the phone had no contact with the water... :/
So I was able to get the xbox music app to pick up music stored on the sd card by using the work around posted on windows super site (sorry I can't post links yet):
Now I have another issue. When the screen is off, the music will stop playing properly. At first I thought it just stop playing, but every 20 seconds or so, a few seconds of music will play. Music stored on the main SSD works fine. Anyone else have this problem?
I have the 64 gig Sandisk class 10 micro sdxc card.
maybe this is a limitation on the SD card reader, i.e. maybe it reduces power consumption whilst under lockscreen, when I get mine through i'll let you know if I have the same issue
same issue here
Perhaps try in desktop control panel to tweak the power management settings.
How are you turning off the screen?
I've found that pandora on IE will stop if I hit the button, but if i listen in the desktop environment and close the touchcover, which causes the screen to go off, it will keep playing. Only in the desktop environment though. Posted a vid on winsource forums showing it.
phases said:
How are you turning off the screen?
I've found that pandora on IE will stop if I hit the button, but if i listen in the desktop environment and close the touchcover, which causes the screen to go off, it will keep playing. Only in the desktop environment though. Posted a vid on winsource forums showing it.
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Either by pressing the button or automatic screen shut down by power management. On board ssd does not have this issue. I'm pretty sure its the power management powers down the usb subsystem when the screen is off.
mrsketch said:
Either by pressing the button or automatic screen shut down by power management. On board ssd does not have this issue. I'm pretty sure its the power management powers down the usb subsystem when the screen is off.
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Yes it is. Higher the Power Management For Battery usage and adjust screen brightness. Screen will be on all the time but sd card music will still work.
Don't have an actual device to test, but you may try your luck in the power options from control panel and change the USB power options/turn off HDD while sleep setting.
They also updated the Music app last night, so I'd give it a try with no changes.
Had tha sames issues, but the resent update fixed it.
TheEdge24 said:
Had tha sames issues, but the resent update fixed it.
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Still not working for me. It stops playing after 15 seconds or so.