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Hey i will be buying one of these phones / pdas tom
either a mpx 300 with GSM 850 / GSM 1800 / GSM 1900
or xda 2s
or xda 2i
plz help which one should i buy - price is not a factor i just need something thts real good more like the best out of the 3
You do know that the XDA2i is 900 triband, right? (Just asking because you specified the 850 model of the MPX)
yup
Yeah i do know tht but well i m just confused about which cell to get formyself - i hav the option of getting any of these right now - comeon ppl ust a one word reply would do
I can't recommend the MPX -- it doesn't have enough memory (only 32MB, IIRC). If you don't plan on running lots of applications, that may be OK for you. If you do go for the MPX make sure you get one of the production units; as I understand it, the pre-production units can't be upgraded.
So that leaves the IIi or the IIs. If you're planning on using the phone in the US (especially on Cingular), go for the IIs; Cingular's network in many places uses the 850 MHz band, which the IIi doesn't have. I've had a SX66 (basically the IIs without the camera) for almost 4 months now and have been very happy with it.
so can anyone tell me if I am right? Here in north america we are just starting to get UMTS in some areas. And I have been waiting for the universal wanting to get one. but our north american umts network is on the 1900 mhz band mode and the rest of the world uses the 2100 mhz band mode for umts. that meens that the universal will have its umts radio on 2100. So does that meen it wont work here as a umts device and I will be stuck with just gprs?? if so I just cant buy it
Hi,
AFAIK, all UMTS phones, so the Universal, are GPS phones as well. So, form a technical point of view you can use the phone whereever there is reception. At least here in germany,the GPS service provider are the same as the UMTS service provider. So, if you leave a UMTS zone the phone automatically logs into the GPS zone. I would expect that it is the same in the US.
rgds
marco
EDIT: Now I have read your message completely and see, that I provided an answer that does not match your question 2nd try: I would expect that if you get your UMTS device via an US provider that it matches its UMTS band. But, without coverage you are stuck with GPRS/GPS, thats right
ARGH, that sucks. because Im sure that by the time they make a north american universal it will be outdated anyway :roll:
I tend to agree. I thought that with UMTS whis crazy frequency problem would disappear finally....
I just checked on the german t-mobile page, which has the Universal, T-Mobile MDA Pro as they call it, on their page.
Unfortunately there is no UMTS frequency mentioned. Maybe there is one generic UMTS setting which allows different frequencies to be used, and all UMTS devices support all the frequencies?
OK, that might be a bit optimistic, I agree ...
Edit:
I got interested and checked for the UMTS frequency situation: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UMTS
So, even with the special US situation, the UMTS frequencies are not connected to contries but comminucation methods (FDD, TDD). So, as long as the UMTS implementation in the US does not differ from the ITU standards, you should be able to use the Universal in the US. But even the above mentioned wiki page is not clear on the situation, so probably you will have to wait and see ...
Oh well I guess I will just have to wait for the wizard or maybee even (Forgive me) a non htc device???
if the wizard has a slower prosesor than my magician I just cant buy it either. and I have my magician tweaked up to 520mhz
I know this is off-topic
I have my magician tweaked up to 520mhz
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what program are you using for that...??
I tried PHM and it hang :evil:
then I tried XCPUScalar.. and it worked, I could overclock it to 520 MHz, but when I tried Beta-Player to benchmark the device.... it said 416 MHz..
and when I used lower speeds.. Beta-player and the XCPUScalar gave the same result
so I could only under-clock my device, but I couldn't overclock it...
are you sure that your device is running at 520 MHz?? and if so, is it stable??and any noticeable improvement in performance??
thanks in advance
Heres the deal my friends in the US.
And btw....its really not good news at all....
http://pocketpcdubai.com/index2.htm
Is it tri or quad band? Does it have wireless?
Different websites have different details. Are there different models? ISnt it a blue angel?
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Blueangel
good guide
It doesnt Mention anything about tri or quad. Thanks for answering though.
Imtrying to buy a PDA2k from ebay and the M2000 comes up but it says triband on all of them.
is there a different answer
as far as i know then all htc phones apart from xda1 are triband
as in 900/1800/1900
though there are some cdma versions or something somewhere or something....
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6423288282&rd=1&sspagename=STRK:MEWA:IT&rd=1
This begs to differ
even the Orange WEb site says its Tri-BAnd
http://shop.orange.co.uk/shop/show/handsets/pay_monthly/all/quad_band_technology
http://shop.orange.co.uk/shop/show/handset/orange_spv_m2000/features
nobody owns a M2000??
huh?????
i said that all other htc phones then xda1 are triband
as in only xda1 is dualband
as in m2000 not being a wallaby like the xda1 being triband
what does that page beg to differ with?
it says the M2000 which is a Blue Angel is triband
yes and thats what i've been saying all along
but you replied that the url begged to differ
as in that it dident agree with me??? :?: :?:
ohh sorry but the reviews say its a Quad band Phone. So i wanna know what the deal is.
what review are you thinking about ?
dont think htc ever made a quadro phone
could be wrong but
even the spcs of the new universal seem to say that it too is a triband phone
http://www.mobiles.co.uk/orange-spv-m2000.html
"people on the move; QWERTY keyboard, WLAN, Quad-band"
and
http://phoneshop.allaboutsymbian.com/orange-spv-m2000.html
Yup, Blue Angel is quad band (well at least my xda 2s is!)
Thanks I know the blue angel is Quad but the Orange WEbsite says that its Tri band but its the same Hardware?>??????
It's strange! Will ask my dad, he has an M2000, it would be weird if different networks had very different specs for the same device. Might just be a typo on the Orange website (they're never particularly hot when it comes to our devices, although thats true of the other networks as well!)
the 4th band would be 850 or some band only used some places in us right ?
yes mostly in North America
I have seen on various sites diffrent listings for the gsm. some sites say its quad band and list 850 and some say tri-band. I just wanted to know if anyone has any conformation on if it has 850 mhz or not
Really difficult to go to the HTC website and check the specs ... is it?
http://www.htc.com/www/product.aspx?id=49524
like i said in the first post other sites have it listed as not quad band
ynghova187 said:
like i said in the first post other sites have it listed as not quad band
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Originally HTC listed it as tri-band, but bow they are saying quad-band. That's why some sites say one thing and others another.
sounds good to me. So i should be able to get this as soon as its released overseas next month and have it working on the US at&t for data and voice.
edit: nm i just noticed there is no 1900 umts. think this can be activated with a rom?
Hmmmmm....
On the htc official dutch site is says triband......
http://www.htc.com/nl/product.aspx?id=54146
WTF????
look at cellhut
http://www.cellhut.com/HTC-Touch-Pro-Unlocked-8373.html?u=2&ppc=26438&name=HTC-Touch-Pro-(Unlocked)
"BandGSM 1800/GSM 1900/GSM 850/HSDPA 850/HSDPA 1900 "
merten3000 said:
On the htc official dutch site is says triband......
http://www.htc.com/nl/product.aspx?id=54146
WTF????
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The official German site of HTC does as well:
http://www.htc.com/de/product.aspx?id=54454
(It sais that the actual capability of frequencies depends on the telephone provider, but it does not mention 8560 MHz ...)
Either there is a European/Asian version AND an US-amerik. version or the limitation is based on software (different radio firmware?). There is a Raphael 100 and a Raphael 110 - may this be the difference?
Cheers,
Eriol
Eriol said:
The official German site of HTC does as well:
http://www.htc.com/de/product.aspx?id=54454
(It sais that the actual capability of frequencies depends on the telephone provider, but it does not mention 8560 MHz ...)
Either there is a European/Asian version AND an US-amerik. version or the limitation is based on software (different radio firmware?). There is a Raphael 100 and a Raphael 800 - may this be the difference?
Cheers,
Eriol
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Read a bit closer dude, the Raph800 is the CDMA version (according to the sources I stated in the thread here). The AT&T ROM was signed for a RAPH110 whereas the HTC ROM was signed for a RAPH100. Im predicting the radio stack will be the desiding factor on the bands available rather than different hardware, would be quite logistically stupid if HTC had several slightly different models on the go just to satisfy the carriers band needs. Sure the cosmetics might be different outside but the core hardware really should be the same.
what is the processor speed of Raphael?
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what is the processor speed of Raphael?
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524 hz.... you can find it in all specs available.....
Mods please close this tread...after reading the first page I just got a headache from all the dumb questions that could have all been answered by visiting HTC's website.
850MHz HSDPA on US AT&T
So,the end result is that a Touch Pro MAY, at some time, work on the AT&T system in the US. However, at this point no one has it functional with any of the ROMs / Radio that are avaiable at this time.
Possibly one might be able to access the higher speed HSDPA, once the ROMs and Radios have been distributed here in the good ol' USA.
If anyone does have a solution to get the TP functional here, I would love to try it.
-Craigster
At least what i can tell, my O2 Touch Pro is a quad band phone.
850MHz HSDPA on US AT&T
The key is that it has HSDPA under 850MHz. This is what will allow the higher speeds on the US AT&T network.
What radio version is your phone using?
-Craigster
Actually all Touch Pro's are 528mhz processor. 528 MHz MSM7201a to be exact.
check this thread about the 850 band please
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=420865&page=31
Hello everyone,
i am apearantly one of the very, very few people who don't think "bigger is better".
I am in the market to replace my aging T-Mobile G1.
I have played around with some of the phones my friends have (4" Galaxy S, 4,3" Desire HD) and find them freakishly large, nothing to comfortably put in my pocket.
Looking at new releases seeing 4.3, 4.5, 4.7 inch devices i can not see myself being comfortable with any of these monsters.
Seeing as my G1 lasted me about 3 years i'd like to find a phone which isn't horribly underpowered by even todays standards to last me at least 2 years again, so what i'm looking for is:
- GSM /HSPA(+) phone usable in europe (germany to be precise)
- Screen between 3.5 - 3.9 inch (3.7 idealy)
- fastest CPU/GPU available in this form factor (idealy dual core)
- as much ram as possible.
- front camera (if possible)
Hope Anyone can help, because all i came up with are Nexus One / Desire / Desire S, and i feel there should be better options than 1 Ghz Qualcom Single Cores with Adreno 200/205.
EDIT (Nov. 12th, 2011):
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The (prelimenary) Winner here is the T-Mobile US exclusive "MyTouch 4G slide".
It is working on all Bands used by every single provider in germany, namely:
GSM: 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
HSPA: 1900 / 2100
and has a dual core 1.2 GHz Processor aswell as 768 MB RAM.
PLEASE - if you can point me to a place where i can buy a unlocked "MyTouch 4G slide" that will ship overseas to europe, let me know.
*BUMP*
bump, bringing it back from page #6
On the HTC side, it is likely that the Desire S is your only option.
heh, my problem is that i only realy found HTC 3.7 inchers, i was looking for any others, but couldn't realy find any
Samsung Galaxy W
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Samsung Galaxy W
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Ok, Thanks - 1.4 GHz singlecore is a step in the right direction, if only there was a dual core in 3.7 inch
No dualcore in 3.7"
Xperia Arc, Neo ?
+1 for galaxy w
Ot: Huge phones suck, ill wait for 3.2 inch dual cores /jk (htc titan is veeery tempting for me '_' shame its not android)
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No dualcore in 3.7"
Xperia Arc, Neo ?
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Thanks for the suggestions, but the Arc is a 4.2 Inch Phone, the Neo certainly has a 3.7" Screen, but comes with the same QSD8255 1GHz Snapdragon like the Desire S, but with only 2/3 of its RAM.
Many four inchers now are almost the same size wih the older 3.7 ones... you might reconsider.
Edit: eg; moto atrix close in size to iPhone 4s
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WE HAVE A (potential) WINNER, PEOPLE!
After doing some more digging i finaly found a 3.7 inch dual core smartphone.
The 'HTC Doubleshot' aka 'MyTouch 4G slide' sold by T-Mobile US has a 1.2 Ghz Dual Core Snapdragon and 768 MB of RAM. In Addition to that it also has a full QUERTY Keyboard, nice plus there.
According to the Spec-Sheet on GSMArena ( http://www.gsmarena.com/t_mobile_mytouch_4g_slide-4018.php ) it supports all 4 GSM / 2G Bands used in germany, as well as HSPA on both of the 3G/3.5G (yeah, in europe HSPA+ is 3.5G, not "Faux-G" aka non LTE/Wimax 4G) Bands used by the german providers, namely 1900/2100.
So that means full operation is possible on EVERY german Cell Provider.
Now for the hard part:
The MyTouch 4G slide is a T-Mobile US exclusive and won't EVER come to Europe i was told by HTC Germany.
So......can anyone point me to a place where i can buy a MyTouch 4G slide, unlocked, with overseas shipping to europe?
OptimismPrime said:
After doing some more digging i finaly found a 3.7 inch dual core smartphone.
The 'HTC Doubleshot' aka 'MyTouch 4G slide' sold by T-Mobile US has a 1.2 Ghz Dual Core Snapdragon and 768 MB of RAM. In Addition to that it also has a full QUERTY Keyboard, nice plus there.
According to the Spec-Sheet on GSMArena ( http://www.gsmarena.com/t_mobile_mytouch_4g_slide-4018.php ) it supports all 4 GSM / 2G Bands used in germany, as well as HSPA on both of the 3G/3.5G (yeah, in europe HSPA+ is 3.5G, not "Faux-G" aka non LTE/Wimax 4G) Bands used by the german providers, namely 1900/2100.
So that means full operation is possible on EVERY german Cell Provider.
Now for the hard part:
The MyTouch 4G slide is a T-Mobile US exclusive and won't EVER come to Europe i was told by HTC Germany.
So......can anyone point me to a place where i can buy a MyTouch 4G slide, unlocked, with overseas shipping to europe?
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EBay would probably be your best bet. As far as unlocking is concerned, you might be able to buy it unlocked or take it to a vendor who will do it for you for a small fee. Failing that, get a Galaxy W
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