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Hello,
I want to buy a K-Jam or M600, but which one is the best choice??.
The K-jam is 200mhz, Is it too slow??.
What about the warranty of both smartphones?, Where is the best online shop to buy one??.
I am in USA now, But I am from Costa Rica and I travel a lot, so I need an unlock pda phone with WI-FI.
Do you think is in the market other pda phones better?
Thanks and regards,
Gabriel Porras
avoid imate
from what i read in the various forums, IMATE warranty repairs
are abysmal or simple poor. So you might get more milage
and satisfaction out of the Eten product.
A.
So what do you said is the ETEN M600 is much better than the k-JAM?.
Regards,
Gabriel Porras
Some one else can give some information ? please!!!
geporras said:
Some one else can give some information ? please!!!
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Kjam, eten etc are not the way forward.
This, sir, is the way forward
http://www.theunwired.net/?itemid=2806
there is alot of satisfied kjam user, if you can live with the slight slow device when u ran too much prog but comes with a nice keyboard. personally i use eten m500 which is wm2003se device and that itself is very very fast thanks to the samsung processor, it comes with alot of programs which is only most htc device requires 3rd party to achieve so out of the box its more usable.. eten m600 is same but with wm2005 and wifi so its better.. by far its the most stable wm2005 device and faster as well not mentioning it comes with aku2 which support bluetooth stereo profile with the new upgrade when others dont have yet. so you will get more out of it. i like the kjam factor and would go for it if it comes with m600 feature. but i will stick to my m500 now till newer device come out next yr.
oh yea i forgot abt htc prophet.. it is slightly better since its not too buggy.. but processor still slow. play around wit them 1st before you decide.. borrow from friends that own them so you'll know what to expect since they already got programs installed..
from what i heard M600 is faster than the Kjam and its camera may be better. it also has full SD slot, which gives you 4GB maximum storage, while the miniSD of the Kjam only gives 2GB max. The Eten M600 currently support the A2DP and AVCR bluetooth profiles which allow you to use bluetooth stereo headphones to listen to music.
On the other hand, M600 lacks EDGE, Infra-red, hardware softkeys, and a keyboard. All of these things the Kjam has.
Thanks!!!
What is EDEGE??, Is that important?.
I need the following minimum requirements of M600 (to work in my country)
GSM with phase 2 plus.
1800 mhz
No SIM lock.
ADN – FDN – SDN
SIM 3 v to 5 v
GPRS
900 – 800 – 1900 MHZ (for roaming).
GPRS 4:1
WAP 1.2 2.0.
The M600 has all of this?
So, finally. Do you think the M600 is the best choice?.
Regards to everybody.
Gabriel Porras
yea m600 support four bands, 800,900,1800,1900. no 2100 thou(wcdma/umts)
what is adn, fdn, sdn??
not sure abt wap1.2 or 2.0 as the pocket ie cant run wap site in my country as i told them my m500 is similar to magician, and they say magician(mini) dun support wap?!?!?! i dun believe that thou.. shoul b able to achieve by 3rd party even if you cant use pocket ie. so far i still cant get wap/gprs working on my fone since vodafone aust wont give me the correct settings so cant confirm. thers always wifi on m600 to compensate for that. since m600 is wm5.0 unlike my m500 should be able to if the other wm5.0 is able to use wap and gprs.
m600 is after all a much better upgrade of m500
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from what i heard M600 is faster than the Kjam and its camera may be better. it also has full SD slot, which gives you 4GB maximum storage, while the miniSD of the Kjam only gives 2GB max. The Eten M600 currently support the A2DP and AVCR bluetooth profiles which allow you to use bluetooth stereo headphones to listen to music.
On the other hand, M600 lacks EDGE, Infra-red, hardware softkeys, and a keyboard. All of these things the Kjam has.
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m600 is muchhhhhh faster than kjam.. it is benchmarked to be around same speed as universal even thou its 416mhz.. mayb cose its samsung processor.. so you shouldnt have problem with slowness.. edge dun really hit in my country so dun need it, i dun even use gprs.. infrared is not needed as my m500 comes with infrared but its not the strong version so cant really use it as remote. hardware softkeys can be assign to any button you want as long you willing to sacrifice the other buttons. keyboard well thats the only pro i see in kjam. lookwise they are both nice.. m600 has the black v3 looks that is quite stylish.. kjam is silver all around and nice too..
M600 is faster, but is better than the k-jam?.
What is EDGE? for what is this?.
What do you mean with soft keys?.
Thanks and Regards,
Gabriel Porras
Do you know what GPRS is? It's being able to connect to the internet from your phone without WiFi. Internet speed with GPRS is like dialup speed. EDGE (also known as EGPRS) in practical life is about 3 times faster than GPRS. Where I live, I can get EDGE connection for 6 US dollars a month, that's why EDGE is important to me.
As for softkeys, it's something that is Windows Mobile 5 related. You know how in the Nokia cellphones you have two buttons that have labels in the screen? For example, in the front screen, when you press that button it takes you to contacts, but once you are in contacts if you press that button again it takes you to search. The button is context sensative and you know what it does by reading the label on the screen. It's called softkey.
So, Microsoft did the same thing with WM5 to reduce stylus and touchscreen dependancy. Now, some WM5 devices come with hardware buttons that are dedicated to those softkeys, and some devices come without them. For those devices that come without the softkey hardware buttons, you can simply click on the softkey with your stylus/finger or, like Cutefox said, you can assign different hardware buttons to the softkeys (i actually never thought about this one before.)
Thanks man for the information.
Now I understand. So the m600 doen´t have any softkey. I´sn´t it?.
Ok. I Think we don´t have edge in my country yet. So I won´t have this problem, jejeje.
Is another PDA phone unlock, better than M600?.
Regards,
Gabriel Porras
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you really should base your decision on if you need a keyboard or not
get the k-jam if you plan to do a lot of text messages and so on
get the m600 for all other things that require more power
one isn't better over the other, it just depends on what you plan to use
Thanks a lot for your comments.
When I saw the first time the k-jam I felt in love. But I am worry about the 200mhz. If it is too slow.
I want the pda phone to in contact with my office and customers by email.
We have offices in U.S.A and in Central America. That is why is very important to me be in contact. I need the WI-Fi. But I am worry about the speed.
I had the IPAQ 3955. But I have to carry the pda and the phone. I want one thing all together.
I saw the M600 and I liked to.
So that is my only question?. It´s the M600 very good, is another better?. Imate? k-jam?. You are the experts. Could you tell me??.
Regards for everything.
Gabriel Porras
i have an HTC Wizard and it's a very good device. Today I had to input a lot of appointments in the Calendar while i was out. i was really happy that i had the hardware keyboard to help me conveniently input the texts. i hate having to deal with hand-recognition or little virtual keyboards.
anyway, the 200mhz OMAP processor isn't too bad. Some people are also reporting slowness problems with HTC Universal, which is supposed to be faster. i have encountered slowness problems in the Wizard when i tried to play Worms (or graphic intensive games) and listen to audio files on AudiblePlayer at the same time. Some games (or Audio players) let you adjust the program's priority to the processor. adjusting these options can completely ELIMINATE this problem, which leads me to think that those programs that don't work well, aren't optimized for WM5 in the first place...
And don't forget 200mhz OMAP processor will give you amazing battery life.
I personally think you should go with K-Jam. it's what you first wanted, and it's a good device. just be a little patient if you face problems, WM5 isn't really intuitive.
good luck
Well!!!! what can I tell you!!???
Just thanks to take the time to ask my questions. Thank you very much.
Final question. How about the warrinty, parts, support and other things like that?.
Regards,
Gabriel Porras
another thing i wanted to point out about the 200mhz processor, i think it's dual core, such that one is dedicated to the pda functions and the other to the phone
of course then in pda mode it's still limited to 200mhz
the only major problems with it is if you will multitask a lot
as for warranty, i can't help much there
but support wise, there will be a lot more support for the k-jam since so many people use it
that way when you come to this forum, or another forum, there are a lot of others that have the same device and if you have a problem, likely someone else or a bunch have had it too, which helps since that means there are more people with solutions as well as hacks and so on
I have a 3 year old T-Mobile Pocket PC Phone Edition (HTC Wallaby) and would like to upgrade it to a new model Pocket PC Phone. I'm a little confused about some of the new models being offered on eBay. T-Mobile USA is supposed to offer the MDA (HTC Wizard) soon.
The HTC Universal (Jas-Jar) seems too large and heavy, and many people seem to be very disapointed in both the phone and the processor.
The HTC Magician seems very popular; small and fairly fast. The HTC Wizard looks like an upgraded model, plus the keyboard. The HTC Prophet looks like a Wizard without the keyboard? Am I missing something?
I really love my old Wallaby, especially since I upgraded the internal battery to a 1750mAh model! I use the pocket pc functions more than the phone. The radio in the phone is pretty weak.
Are the new models worth the price?
Do the phone radios work better?
Should I just stay with what I have; until it dies?
Thanks for any input!
I'd go with the Wizard right now. It's small, it has WM5 and an excellent keyboard. The only downside that it has a relatively small processor (TI OMAP 850, runs at 196 mhz), which you might not notice with regular usage, I'm pretty sure morphgear for example won't run on it with a decent speed. Skype has problems too. But if you don't really play games and/or use skype, it is a wise choice. If you do, and you don't need WiFi/WM5/keyboard, you should go with the magician.
Nah, HTC Universal is wonderful. The only downside to it is the size. If you can find your way past the size its the best possible device.
RyanZA said:
Nah, HTC Universal is wonderful. The only downside to it is the size. If you can find your way past the size its the best possible device.
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Universal is waaaay too big.
Mychoices would be between Charmer, Prophet and Wizard.
I totally agree with TheBrit & I love small devices. The magician is a bad choice nowadays as it's been replaced. So I'd go for a wizard for the keyboard, second pick Charmer & Prophet
M
Radio strength?
Do any of the new models have upgraded Radio Transmitters/Receivers? The phone reception on my Wallaby is pretty weak, I end up using my wife's cell phone if we are in an fringe area on reception.
T-Mobile is supposed to soon include 850 MHz Roaming here in the US, so I want a tri or quad band phone. If I get the Magician, I have to choose between 850 and 900 MHz. Since I travel a lot, I guess it'll have to be the Wizard or the Phophet, since they're quads.
Thank you for all the good advice!
I after loosing my XDA2i just after 5 days of buying. now looking to an other phone. please guide what to buy. I have following options
1) XDA2i
2) I-Mat KJam
3) PDA2K
4) Nokia 7710 (smart phone)
i really disappointed from the camera results of XDA2i , it had only 1 plus point that was 520 Mhz processor.
can you please share your experience now which i should buy from above.
2nd can anyone please tell me what Nokia 7710 cant do which PDAs can do. in other words what a PDA has more + points from a smart phone like N7710 or SE P910i etc
my preferences are quick typing over IM and good quality camera.
Please guide , i don’t want to waste more money with in 1 month.
Khurram said:
I after loosing my XDA2i just after 5 days of buying. now looking to an other phone. please guide what to buy. I have following options
1) XDA2i
2) I-Mat KJam
3) PDA2K
4) Nokia 7710 (smart phone)
i really disappointed from the camera results of XDA2i , it had only 1 plus point that was 520 Mhz processor.
can you please share your experience now which i should buy from above.
2nd can anyone please tell me what Nokia 7710 cant do which PDAs can do. in other words what a PDA has more + points from a smart phone like N7710 or SE P910i etc
my preferences are quick typing over IM and good quality camera.
Please guide , i don’t want to waste more money with in 1 month.
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Stay away from XDA2i, PDA2k - these are old models. Camera on older PDAs is NOT very good. I-mate K-Jam runs Windows Mobile 5, which has a great benefit compared to the older models, when the battery is empty on the older models, all information is lost. On WM5 based PDAs you will not experience this. The i-mate K-Jam has unfortunatelly only an Texas Instrument 200 MHz processor, a bit slow..besides that this is a nice PDA.
JiC
I had the XDAII, now the universal
my colleague has the Imate JAM, and two other colleagues the K Jam
You really have to ask what you want. K Jam as built in WIFI - big plus. Universal has video conferening and WIFI. K Jam and Universal have hard keyboards built in.
The others that are listed have an older rom version. if you are going to buy an expensive phone, pay a bit more and get the latest model and operating system.
with the kjam, yes the processor is slower, but having briefly used it, doesnt represent that much of an impact, but provides much longer battery life. The processor is "tweaked" somehow by the manufacturer, so unless you are going to really use it, hack it, and put it under load, then consider the universal with the faster processor.
cant comment on the nokia, except that its nearly as big as the universal with less functions.
The JAM/S100 still has a faster processor than the new Orange M600 / S200 / Jamin.
I've had my S100 for a year now and my contract is nearly up, I am tempted to upgrade to the M600 but not sure it will really be worth it?
Are there any apps that can give my existing S100 the same functionality as M600/S200 ?
Most wanted features would be:
1. Outlook Photo sync and display when calling (I've tried some software but you have to assign photos seperate from outlook)
2. Sync Media files (Movies etc) like WM10 does
3. Push email (maybe mail2web works with WM2003 ?)
Other nice features that the M600/S200 has that would be worth a possible upgrade are:
USB2 (much faster media transfer - or is there STILL active sync bug?)
Quad band (I don't really go away except on hols when i leave it at home!)
2mp camera, (I have a seperate digital camera)
Wifi. I have wifi at home but cannot think of a reason to use it , I can just put it in the cradle!
Any one out there upgraded from S100 to S200 ? who would like to comment on speed / improvements etc ?
Thanks
OK So no replies then ?
I've decided to take the plunge and get the Orange M600.
I got it as a free upgrade and also managed to increase my inclusive mins
from 180 (Family plan) to 200 Xnet + 100 landline + 100 texts (Non family plan) for the same monthly price (£25)
Nice.
Lets hope the M600 does not dissapoint.
I have a Wizard (QTek 9100, MDA Vario) now and a Magician (S100, MDA Compact) before. The Wizard is as fast as the Magician, only the reboot needs some more time 'cause WM5. I have no problems with ActiveSync and Wifi nor anything else. I don't want a new WM2003/WM5 flame thread, but i think WM5 has many improvements. I loved the Metal case of my Magician, the Wizard is thiker and feels not so "stable", but it is also a good device. But the Prophet (S200) has the same size as the Magician.
Ok after long deliberation I have canceled my order for the M600.
I was waiting for Orange to have stock, during that time I have had a chance to play with my girlfriends new Pink Charmer (Mda 2 on T-mobile) and was dissapointed by the general reaction time and that it didnt play my movies as well as the S100 !) - I belive this phone has the same processor as the M600.
SO I have switched to Easymobile as they were doing a deal for £21 airtime for £1, its like a pay-as-you-go contract and I will probably PORT over to T-mobile when the next best MDA comes out (S300 anyone ?)..
Until then I have bought a 4gb MMC card for my S100.. ;-)
Did the 4 GB Card work?
The next MDA will be the Vario II (HTC Hermes), and he has a 300 Mhz Procesor.
Yup memory card worked fine..
it was a
Adata 4GB 200x Turbo MMC 4.0 from Ebay cost about 70 pounds.
I dont think its the actual phone which is slow but the ROM, a friend of mine has a MDA Compact II which I've played around with, which i thought was a bit slow compared to my M600 flashed with Imate Rom. Plus the MDA doesnt have the softkeys as the key config is still adapted to the old WM2003 style.
I also used to have a Magician and I can say that I am extremely happy with the upgrade and dont see any difference in reaction speed (apart from video playback, just need to reencode the video to 320x240). Plus the feel of the casing on the M600 is so much nicer, has kinda a rubber fell to it, giving a better non-split grip.
My feeling on the matter is that, yes, WM5 would be pretty hot, partly because it's more mature and handles a lot of things better, but mostly because it would finally allow proper A2DP outside of windows media player (most of my music is AAC, hence the frustration).
The wifi would only be a big boon to me because I like to use my handset for Skype, and swapping out cards is a pain. However, the different (though, perhaps not actually slower, in real-world terms?) CPU does not run any version of Skype that currently exists (they're working on it, I gather), so that wouldn't really help.
I like the look of the Hermes (Wizard + BT 2.0 + Xscale + 2Mpx cam) as my next handset, though I'm severely tempted by SE's W950i (4Gb internal memory, QVGA touch-screen, thin~).
I think that Windows Mobile based phones probably won't be really ready for the prime time for another generation or so
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CPU does not run any version of Skype that currently exists (they're working on it, I gather), so that wouldn't really help.
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Skype works fine one my Prophet! voice calls too.
I guess they sorted it without telling me? Man, they're mean.
Also, I just remembered: the Muse!
Re: OK So NO Mobile 5 for my JAM/S100 BUT is it worth upgrad
gregory_marsh said:
Most wanted features would be:
1. Outlook Photo sync and display when calling (I've tried some software but you have to assign photos seperate from outlook)
2. Sync Media files (Movies etc) like WM10 does
3. Push email (maybe mail2web works with WM2003 ?)
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For push-mail I use VGSMail. It's an imap client. So you need an imap mail account, it doesn't work with pop accounts. http://www.vgsmail.com/ppc/
Regards, M
I upgraded my Magician to a Prophet (free upgrade and £130 on eBay for the Magician) and yes it's a little slower but not so much. In the Prophet forum there's a thread about overclocking the Prophet whick makes a huge improvement when running Skype and TomTom.
Does anybody have any updated news on the HTC Omni? Why the delay?
If HTC develops it as enthusiatically as the new Touch Diamond and TytnII, then we are sure to have a winner
Thanks
Calli
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Does anybody have any updated news on the HTC Omni? Why the delay?
If HTC develops it as enthusiatically as the new Touch Diamond and TytnII, then we are sure to have a winner
Thanks
Calli
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1. no news at all
2. did you really mean the TyTN II as an "enthusiatically" engineered device?
I heard it has fallen off the edge of the world, not to be seen anytime soon
I believe HTC has changed his business strategy. they use to make PDA-phones but now they are focusing making WM-PHONES. Devices like Universal or Omni are communicators which mostly targeted for Business user. Obviously the market share (money) is not on those. Furthermore they are still providing Universal or bigger brother Athena and have no competition on those Devices.
Iphone attracted a lot of people not because of it's technology package but the simplicity and Multi media ability. Furthermore Ipnone doesn't rest and improve its technology. Therefore as we can see HTC concentrate since Iphone release to keep up or be in front of apple. So therefore I dont think we will see in any near future the Omni
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I believe HTC has changed his business strategy. they use to make PDA-phones but now they are focusing making WM-PHONES. Devices like Universal or Omni are communicators which mostly targeted for Business user. Obviously the market share (money) is not on those. Furthermore they are still providing Universal or bigger brother Athena and have no competition on those Devices.
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Sure they have: the hx4700 with WM6.1 (or the iPAQ 210 if you prefer) with a decent HSDPA-enabled smartphone like the Nokia N95. Much cheaper (particularly if you go the hx4700 route), much better, much easier to carry than the Athena. I'd personally in no way pay for Athena $500 - let alone $1300. It's just a joke with a rididulously bad keyboard. (Yes, the new Athena also sucks.)
Now that I've got a iPAQ 210, I've entirely stopped carrying my Universal with me and switched to the 210 + N95 setup. I'm absolutely happy with the duo.
Now that I've got a iPAQ 210, I've entirely stopped carrying my Universal with me and switched to the 210 + N95 setup. I'm absolutely happy with the duo.[/quote]
You are talking from my heart Menneisyys,
I use to carry also two devices. I Stored a lot business related information on my PDA and the phone was just for communication. During office hours it was no issue with that. However I found after office hours when I was out for a Drink I did mostly forget or don't wan to carry my PDA. That leads me not having my important information when I have needed them.
Therefore I bought my first WM PDA/phone ( XDA II) back 2004 because I could combine 2 devices in to one and XDA II was not larger or heavier then my PDA. I could carry it easily on my belt.So it was a Great change.
I broke my XDA II 2006 which was a great Device, hell I think it was the best device that HTC untill now made.
Then I bought the Universal which was the most advanced available device It was big and heavy so that I almost lost my pants if I carry it on my belt. Phone functionality was not really best , battery live was bad but it had what I needed (1=2). However Now waiting 2 years of a device that combines the good things from XDA II and Universal. Unfortunately no update and I have given up waiting.
As my universal come to age I bought HTC kaiser, well after using it for 1 week I have given it to my wife!! it is to small as a PDA and it is to big as a phone.
It seams all the Devices coming out having the same issue and no one cares for a old guys that need larger screen. Currently Guess what I have repaired my XDA II and using it as my primary again. If the XDA II dies completely I will also change to having again 2 devices. Well may be I am lucky and some one will produce a device like the Nokia E90 in WM version.
I agree. XDA II was great. Pity it does not come with 3G & HSDPA. Radio signal was far better than the Universals. Hopefully somebody will copy the design and form factor, add in all bells & whistles and then we the older guys will again be content.
I cant wait for sony x1 with 3" wvga at 800x480!
While we patiently wait for the ultimate PDA Phone edition, what would my learnerd colleagues suggest as the best Radio for the Universal using Jwrightsmcps Crossbow 2.12.08? I'm currently using Radio 1.18.00 which has very poor signal strength.
Thanks
Menneisyys said:
1. no news at all
2. did you really mean the TyTN II as an "enthusiatically" engineered device?
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in response to #2. no kidding, i was more enthusiastic about reverting back to my wizard after i sold my tytn II 2 months after buying it. that thing was a disappointment.
Menneisyys said:
Sure they have: the hx4700 with WM6.1 (or the iPAQ 210 if you prefer) with a decent HSDPA-enabled smartphone like the Nokia N95. Much cheaper (particularly if you go the hx4700 route), much better, much easier to carry than the Athena. I'd personally in no way pay for Athena $500 - let alone $1300. It's just a joke with a rididulously bad keyboard. (Yes, the new Athena also sucks.)
Now that I've got a iPAQ 210, I've entirely stopped carrying my Universal with me and switched to the 210 + N95 setup. I'm absolutely happy with the duo.
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The Athena is not a good phone, but its the best UMPC for many people (myself included) if you consider everything (size, price, battery life, connectivity, tv-out, etc...) and the keyboard isn't that bad, I've enabled the software clicking sound, and its very usable and comfortable for me. I've paid 500$ bucks on mine (slightly used but like-new condition), and its probably the best bang you can get for your buck (at least for my use).
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The Athena is not a good phone, but its the best UMPC for many people (myself included) if you consider everything (size, price, battery life, connectivity, tv-out, etc...) and the keyboard isn't that bad, I've enabled the software clicking sound, and its very usable and comfortable for me. I've paid 500$ bucks on mine (slightly used but like-new condition), and its probably the best bang you can get for your buck (at least for my use).
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i guess u never heard of sony 4.5" umpc running on Xp/Vista dual boot, what u can do at home, u can do it at umpc. Athena is not a umpc, athena is a 5" brick. haha
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i guess u never heard of sony 4.5" umpc running on Xp/Vista dual boot, what u can do at home, u can do it at umpc. Athena is not a umpc, athena is a 5" brick. haha
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I guess you didn't read everything I wrote. No UMPC that costs anywhere near the price of the Athena and is about the same size, has the features the Athena can offer.
1. Battery life. needless to say, about 6 times more than any UMPC (except Shift on WM mode).
2. Connectivity. 3.5G, WIFI, BT, IR.
3. Input/Output. USB host, S-video, VGA, composite.
Of course its not really a UMPC, since its not a PC, but its better at most tasks that any UMPC out there. Especially if you consider the small size and price.
kramerica2 said:
I guess you didn't read everything I wrote. No UMPC that costs anywhere near the price of the Athena and is about the same size, has the features the Athena can offer.
1. Battery life. needless to say, about 6 times more than any UMPC (except Shift on WM mode).
2. Connectivity. 3.5G, WIFI, BT, IR.
3. Input/Output. USB host, S-video, VGA, composite.
Of course its not really a UMPC, since its not a PC, but its better at most tasks that any UMPC out there. Especially if you consider the small size and price.
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end of the day it ends up to been a costly PDA/UMPC. As phone it is obviously to big!!!
The XDAII Revolution
Reviving XDA II campaign
If all the fans of the trusted XDAII get togther I'm sure we will find an enterprising technician that can rebuild/modify the motherboard to give us HSDPA, Wi-Fi, VGA out, extra mem, speed etc.
LETS START THE NEW REVOLUTION! (maybe only then will the manufacturesrs get the message?)
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Reviving XDA II campaign
If all the fans of the trusted XDAII get togther I'm sure we will find an enterprising technician that can rebuild/modify the motherboard to give us HSDPA, Wi-Fi, VGA out, extra mem, speed etc.
LETS START THE NEW REVOLUTION! (maybe only then will the manufacturesrs get the message?)
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HTC made master piece and released the HTC P6300 but the spec doesnt include what you wish.What a Joke!!!! FORGET it HTC now is just phone manufacturer and just focusing gaining market share.
kramerica2 said:
The Athena is not a good phone, but its the best UMPC for many people (myself included) if you consider everything (size, price, battery life, connectivity, tv-out, etc...) and the keyboard isn't that bad, I've enabled the software clicking sound, and its very usable and comfortable for me. I've paid 500$ bucks on mine (slightly used but like-new condition), and its probably the best bang you can get for your buck (at least for my use).
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Of course, for $500, it's a VERY good buy. I meant the price/performance ratio at its current price point ($1300).
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I guess you didn't read everything I wrote. No UMPC that costs anywhere near the price of the Athena and is about the same size, has the features the Athena can offer.
1. Battery life. needless to say, about 6 times more than any UMPC (except Shift on WM mode).
2. Connectivity. 3.5G, WIFI, BT, IR.
3. Input/Output. USB host, S-video, VGA, composite.
Of course its not really a UMPC, since its not a PC, but its better at most tasks that any UMPC out there. Especially if you consider the small size and price.
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1. battery life means nothing, if it doesnt do much! my Sony 4.5" umpc running on Xp or Vista, can run JAVA APPLETS, real xp/vista programs like itune, mirc, download mp3 from internet and transfer it to ipod/iphone. can Athena running on Windows Mobiles does this? haha
2. sony 4.5" umpc also have wifi, BT. since both umpc and athena is too big to put in pocket, u also be carry a cellphone. if there' is no wifi avail, i just teather 3.5G from pdaphone to umpc.
3. sony 4.5" umpc caddle has 3 USB port, so u can plug in real mouse or keyboard if u dont want to use build-in keyboard or mouse pointer. it also have a monitor output port! and ethernet port too!
sony 4.5" umpc is about the same size as 5" athena! and it costs about the same price as Athena used!
http://cgi.ebay.com/Sony-Vaio-VGN-U...goryZ177QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
netnerd said:
1. battery life means nothing, if it doesnt do much! my Sony 4.5" umpc running on Xp or Vista, can run JAVA APPLETS, real xp/vista programs like itune, mirc, download mp3 from internet and transfer it to ipod/iphone. can Athena running on Windows Mobiles does this? haha
2. sony 4.5" umpc also have wifi, BT. since both umpc and athena is too big to put in pocket, u also be carry a cellphone. if there' is no wifi avail, i just teather 3.5G from pdaphone to umpc.
3. sony 4.5" umpc caddle has 3 USB port, so u can plug in real mouse or keyboard if u dont want to use build-in keyboard or mouse pointer. it also have a monitor output port! and ethernet port too!
sony 4.5" umpc is about the same size as 5" athena! and it costs about the same price as Athena used!
http://cgi.ebay.com/Sony-Vaio-VGN-U...goryZ177QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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First of all, all the tasks you've mentioned CAN be done with the Athena.
Of course, each user should meet his own demands with the device he has. I can speak only for myself, but I need a device that can:
1. Play movies and music.
2. Include a TV-OUT port and VGA/DVI.
3. Be able to push e-mails via exchange server all the time, surf the web, play some simple games.
4. Do all of the above at least for 5-6 hours strait.
5. Have a camera.
6. Include some sort of integrated keyboard.
7. Be able to be charged via USB, Car, Airplane, Outlet.
Now, find me any UMPC that can do all of the above better than the Athena, and is as portable as the Athena.
kramerica2 said:
First of all, all the tasks you've mentioned CAN be done with the Athena.
Now, find me any UMPC that can do all of the above better than the Athena, and is as portable as the Athena.
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really? if u going to get a brick, atleast get something better like a real umpc!
please tell me how can i run JAVA APPLETS from websites (NOT javascripts), and transfer mp3 from Athena to ipod/iphone.
i already told u! sony 4.5" can do it better and it' about the same size as Athena and cost around the same price too! yes, sony 4.5 umpc can play movies too! and i just checked my sony, it has headphone jack, yes u can play music too! haha. and a mic jack too! haha