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Expansion Packs (Expansys)

Happy Brand New Year Y'all.
Listen. Just browsed the following pages at Expansys.com regarding the above. Can someone tell me what hardware differences there are between the two devices. I'll be damned if the Expansion Pack for I-Mate could not work with the XDAII. Check out the price difference!
BO SELLECTAR!!! :!:
http://www.expansys.com/product.asp?code=109731&asource=106055
http://www.expansys.com/product.asp?code=108741&asource=106055
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I just rang them and they said they are 2 identical products but with different manufacturies (excuise my spelling) hence the different price, the Cheaper £82 inc VAT should be ready first week in Feb
John

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I just rang them and they said they are 2 identical products but with different manufacturies (excuise my spelling) hence the different price, the Cheaper £82 inc VAT should be ready first week in Feb
John
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Nice one J. You know, many times in life you get what you pay for. :roll:

nice add-on
pity it is not designed for XDA I
regards, monika

SuperDDD said:
Happy Brand New Year Y'all.
Listen. Just browsed the following pages at Expansys.com regarding the above. Can someone tell me what hardware differences there are between the two devices. I'll be damned if the Expansion Pack for I-Mate could not work with the XDAII. Check out the price difference!
BO SELLECTAR!!! :!:
http://www.expansys.com/product.asp?code=109731&asource=106055
http://www.expansys.com/product.asp?code=108741&asource=106055
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wooh Bo Selcta got to Jamica great show, they are identical though quite a rip of and I dont belive for one moment they different manufactures just different boxes that HTC packaged them in

when the rep said to me "different manufactures" i did say "do you mean from different airtime providers" he said "yeh yeh different manufactures" So i take it he had no idea the phone was sold in 2 formats but they are both the same.
John

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when the rep said to me "different manufactures" i did say "do you mean from different airtime providers" he said "yeh yeh different manufactures" So i take it he had no idea the phone was sold in 2 formats but they are both the same.
John
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heheheheh - it appear to be a good joke though
regards, monika

So did anyone work out if the I-mate backpack fits & works on the XDAII?

well since they are both HTC Himalaya
and the only difference between I-mate, xda2 and mda2
is a printet label on the device and custom rom
then unless they made some software block it would work

CF Backpacks
Yes - They are all interchangeable ...
BTW: If anyone has one they want to sell, I need a couple for a project..
[email protected] if you've got one
Cheers
Andy

Expansys, ey? Fact is that both are not available yet and in good Expansys tradition they list products for pre-order that they cannot deliver on - they just want you to place a pre-order and hope you will stick with it once the product becomes available... OK, prices on this path are just entirely wrong, but who cares about customers at Expansys anyway :lol:

Agree Frank
Have to agree, Frank - I notice you're a local . They should at least be stating accurately when a product is to be released and what the likely wait times are.
Not to mention the fact that the grey market of these products through Expansys just messes up the support channels here in Australia. We can't compete with a zero warranty, zero support product here!!! We've got to factor replacement, support and warranty costs - Real people, real families and real time...
It's hard enough supporting the issues in the current iMate lines (Like helping customers install Widcomm Bluetooth stacks to get GPS units and Navigation systems like Destinator working) - Now that O2 is looking like it'll pull out of Australia altogether now that the Telstra Australia deal pulled away from O2 to iMate (Carrier devices) ... It's going to be interesting what happens with the grey market for these products...
Carrier Devices won't touch a unit from outside Australia!
Cheers.
Andy

Has anyone tried a CF Wi-FI (802.11b) card with the expansion pack?
Do standard CF memory cards stick out a lot or are they flush when installed?
I'm thinking about an i-Mate or XDA-II but I'll need the expansion pack and the ability for Wi-FI (802.11b).
Thank you in advance for the help...
JB

Someone has to actually get the Backpack before we can try it :wink:
I ordered one from a place that it was suggested actually had them in stock. I ordered, knowing full well of course that I'd get the "we apologize, but..." e-mail. And of course, a few hours later, I got that e-mail. They claim they had been told this week they would get them, now they are told next Wed Jan 28th. I'll believe it when I see a shipment tracking number. I think HTC has been saying "next week" for the Backpack since November.
I have a Socket CF WiFi card I've been dying to try. My Sandisk SD card works fine, but its a bit awkward the way it sticks out so far and the Socket CF card, with its small antenna, would not seem to extend beyond the edge of the XDA, according to the pictures I've seen of the CF slot on the Backpack.
HTC has handled their accessories very poorly IMO. I don't understand what the holdup is getting them out. The XDA II has been out for months now, but try and get even something as basic as a spare battery. At this rate, the XDA III will be out just as accessories for the XDA II are hitting stores :lol:

OK - thanks.
I had not realized that the backpacks were not "shipping" yet.
Please keep us posted. :wink:
-JB

Tekntoys.com has it and it seems they have stock so for people want to buy try this store a little bit cheaper also compared to expansys. here's the link below:
http://estore.shopplex.com/app/storefront.aspx?cat_id=180&inv_id=40106155424524&modid=30214092059015

superperry said:
Tekntoys.com has it and it seems they have stock so for people want to buy try this store a little bit cheaper also compared to expansys. here's the link below:
http://estore.shopplex.com/app/storefront.aspx?cat_id=180&inv_id=40106155424524&modid=30214092059015
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Actually, these guys are the ones who sent me the email saying they didn't have it yet. I'm on "backorder"

DaleReeck said:
superperry said:
Tekntoys.com has it and it seems they have stock so for people want to buy try this store a little bit cheaper also compared to expansys. here's the link below:
http://estore.shopplex.com/app/storefront.aspx?cat_id=180&inv_id=40106155424524&modid=30214092059015
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Actually, these guys are the ones who sent me the email saying they didn't have it yet. I'm on "backorder"
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Sorry to hear I thought they said they are going to have it by Jan. 21, I guess not... my bad!

CF Backpack delivery date!
G'day All,
The CF backpack shipment here is due on Feb 21st 2004. ie. Another few weeks... That's the iMate branded one.. It'll be interesting to see if the O2 branded ones turn up first - But I DEFINITELY doubt it!!
Cheers
Andrew
P.S. If you want one, http://estore.pressd.com in the Pocket PC Section.

Expansion Packs have arrived at expansis UK
I have cantacted Expansis and asked when they will have the expansion packs. They say in 4 working days (Monday in my reconing)
http://www.expansys.com/product.asp?code=109731&asource=106055
They aslo said this is their second shipment as the first lot had run out.
I also noticed that the O2 version has now gone up in price from their previous listing and is very similar to the imate price. But you have to wait 40 days for it.
If anyone has tried it out yet let me know what you think.
Adam

Cruise Discontinued!!!

Hey,
some regional Expansys sites say the Touch Cruise has been discontinued. Any idea what the heck is going on? Anyone?

maybe they don't know nothing

heh lets hope their trannie webworker dont push the release ½year next by mistake

think so?
Rudegar said:
heh lets hope their trannie webworker dont push the release ½year next by mistake
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so you think it might be just one guy screwing up almost all regional expansys sites? i tried just randomly the czech one, the greek, italian and several others. it seemed to be a rather massive occurence.

all i say is the jumping the gun is a bit eraly from 1 reseller
wait and see

i know raskell is replying. no u idiots it aint disconntinued.

Discontinued?
I checked the Expansys sites in UK and MobilePlanet Us an both say expecting availability on Dec 16th. Should I send mine back? Perhaps if it is discontinued, the value may increase as a 'rare' item?????

Pawel062 said:
i know raskell is replying. no u idiots it aint disconntinued.
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Hey, I will be very glad to end up corrected. What I was trying to point at was that half of the expansys sites seem not to distribute the product to their respective countries any more. And I don't think it is necessary to give me this abuse just because I worry about a major distributor's withdrawal of the product. If it still comes out in the UK, I will happily order it from there and just get a european charger.
I am just getting a little anxious. I really want to buy a cool PDA phone. Originally I was waiting for months for Eten X800 only to find out from forums and reviews that it is a screwed up product. Then I started saving money for the Cruise, hoping I will be able to order it so that it can make it to the mail before Xmas. Now I naturally got scared when I - while browsing for some update - got the "discontinued" message.

No problem irvo, it just might be better if you post "Is the Cruise discontinued?" and also post the web address that shows the information so your concern can be verified.
As we know, several of the i-Mates have been discontinued, but with HTC, the Touch line is very popular right now. Cancelling one of those devices would be a serious flaw in their business plan.

Yup, my thoughts exactly - discontinuation would seem very illogical. And you're right, I might have been a little jumpy with the post title.
I found the "discontinued" label for example here:
http://www.expansys.cz/p.aspx?i=159610
but also at some other expansys local sites, for example the greek, austrian, or spanish one.

i think it would be a good thing, as mine is in the mail right now

Alpha Class said:
i think it would be a good thing, as mine is in the mail right now
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wow, congrats! where were you ordering from?

Yeah where???

it wouldn't be nice to tell
although if you do want to buy one at a slight discount i think there is a group buy going on at hofo

XDA Flint for sale

Hi guys. I'm selling my Flint...here it is:
link
Yeah, it's a bit cheeky, but when it's gone, it's gone...so hurry

If I saw this 3 weeks ago I would have gone for it surely
knowing HTC Athena 2 due out soon, I now prefers to wait till Athena 2 released.
best of luck! I did best offer you on that auction, but was declined.

Yeah too right it was declined. People offering me silly money. Think I'm stupid??? If people don't want to pay what these things are worth, they should either forget it and get a device that suits their budget, or wait a couple of years until it drops to the price you want to pay (judging by the offers, it'll be about 10 years!! ), instead of wasting my time and looking a little bit foolish...
Anyway it's still for sale if anybody's interested. Link updated and slightly reduced price.

Things to take into account:
Is it Simlocked to O2? I bought mine new and sim-free last year for £624 so if locked might be considered expensive for a second-hand item when you consider if anything goes wrong with it, they'd have to go through you go get it repaired.
Can you still actually leave buyers negative feedback? I thought that had been stopped by ebay.

Ponder said:
Things to take into account:
Is it Simlocked to O2? I bought mine new and sim-free last year for £624 so if locked might be considered expensive for a second-hand item when you consider if anything goes wrong with it, they'd have to go through you go get it repaired.
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O2 do not, and never have SIM locked their Windows Mobile devices. The Flint is pretty much the standard HTC offering, though the current ROM does not have the HTC Home front end.
O2 also tend to do warranty repairs based on the IMEI, so do not necessarily need the original owner to mediate things, as long as you are using an O2 SIM.
It seems amazing that prices seem to vary from around £320 to well over £500 on Ebay.

Thanks for clearing that up, if I were in the market it'd justify the cost for me.
Maybe if matmaneyre could point these things out in the item description it'd clear things up to the public in general and bring about a quicker sale
I still don't think it's possible to leave negative feedback to a buyer though, especially one with whom no transaction has actually occurred.

Yes- you're right. Ebay changed the rules at the end of last year, for better or worse, though as you say, it was never possible to leave FB for someone who didn't actually buy.
With Ebay, the content of the advert say's an awful lot about the product and the seller

I thought about buying that from you off of eBay.
Something doesn’t quite feel right about that auction.
You say it’s an upgrade, yet it’s not available as an upgrade!? Also you say it’s too complicated for you but it’s no more complicated than any other Windows mobile device.
Maybe I’m paranoid but...

To be honest, by 'too complicated for me' I really meant not quite right for me, as it has too many features I am not going to use, and I think I would be better off cashing in and getting something more suitable to my needs. Hope that clears it up a bit. I'd have put that in the description, but it seems to take so long to create a good listing just the way you want it, minor things that the everyday person browsing for such a device just get overlooked when you preview your listing before submitting it. Once you get to a stage where you think it sounds and looks good enough, you kinda just go with it.
As you say, it's no more complicated than any other WM device. It is available as an upgrade through O2, but strictly only to business customers. They are extremely hard to get hold of otherwise. I hounded them literally everyday for a month because I returned my faulty Serra (see my signature) and they couldn't offer me an equal or better replacement. All their Serras were out of stock - really messed me about for 4 weeks. In the end they backed down as there was nothing else they could offer me.
They don't know their ear from their elbow.
And I didn't realise you couldn't leave negative feedback to a buyer as luckily I've never been in a situation where I'd want to, although that's really only on there to make people think seriously before submitting an offer. I don't want to be relisting all the time for the sake of someone not reading the buyer restrictions or trying to scam me.
Hope that explains a few things...if you're still wary,. check my feedback. I've sold all my WM devices of the last 5 years on ebay (see sig again!) And see my postcount and view my posts too. I am a real, genuine human!!
Thanks everyone for the helpful info (didn't realise there was no simlock either!)

In general section is a thread called Buy & Sell
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=434069
Let´s use it for that porpose

matmaneyre said:
Thanks everyone for the helpful info (didn't realise there was no simlock either!)
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You're welcome, and IMO (for what that's worth) totally genuine.

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You're welcome, and IMO (for what that's worth) totally genuine.
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Thanks for that, means a lot!
I didn't realise there was a buy and sell section. Thanks for that. If a mod would like to move me, feel free.
Anyway, relisted (again), updated link (again) and reduced (again)!

SOLD now, thanks.

Lola Electronics?

Hi, still hunting around for somewhere to get an Infinity from and I may have found a place. Stumbled across this Lola Electronics place in the UK and was wondering weather they are trustworthy? They seem to have very cheap prices so there is an element of dodgyness with them. They have a massive long phone number and a gmail instead of something fancy. If its dodgy, which I suspect it is, are there any other places I people know of and is it ok to import say a UK model to AU with things like firmware and that?
Thanks,

Also found http://www.adorama.com/ which seem to ship to Australia, but once again, not sure weather to trust these online and foreign sites.

mdemons12 said:
Also found http://www.adorama.com/ which seem to ship to Australia, but once again, not sure weather to trust these online and foreign sites.
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B&H Photo Video also ships out of the US, and is 100% legit. My one gripe with them is that they don't pack for shipment very well. This has happened on more than one occasion, the most recent being the TF700T. The exterior shipping box has a pretty large crushed corner (blame UPS here), but the interior ASUS bax also had the corner pushed in. Better packing could have prevented that; and as I said, this is not the first time.

mdemons12 said:
Hi, still hunting around for somewhere to get an Infinity from and I may have found a place. Stumbled across this Lola Electronics place in the UK and was wondering weather they are trustworthy? They seem to have very cheap prices so there is an element of dodgyness with them. They have a massive long phone number and a gmail instead of something fancy. If its dodgy, which I suspect it is, are there any other places I people know of and is it ok to import say a UK model to AU with things like firmware and that?
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Giday matey
Hope melbourne is not keeping you indoors this winter - Indeal time to have a Tablet like Infinity to PLAY WITH !!!
UK models = European ones - which will have lots of issue eg POWER CHARGER etc ...so I would settle for ones made for USA market
.... and its lots easier to setup since its already ENGLISH = as default ! <<<I have had major issues with Transfomer TF201 series from Europe>>> not to mention warranty if **** goes south !
Now I got this SHINNY BEAST !!! (deleivered from US in weeks via FEDEX - safe quick and easy peezee not to mention ..NO TAX , no Deleiverey charges ... blah blah) am most impressed
So seach - eRetailer/*bay site for pple who will SHIP to Aust for free .......... rimes with some JUNGLE in Sth america
Hope this helps
Cheers

Thanks both for the replies! and yeah, its pretty cold down here in Melbourne, rarely getting above 15C and going down to nearly 0C which is pretty cold for us. I still need to know if I can have the refund on my Prime which was sent back for the screen clicking in and out of place, similar to the Nexus 7. If I can, then I am gonna really look around the US. A good Aussie $ means I can save a bit more. At least with the Infinity it isn't much of a risk as the Prime to ship it from overseas for warranty reasons, dont think i will need a warranty too much with the Infinity.

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So seach - eRetailer/*bay site for pple who will SHIP to Aust for free .......... rimes with some JUNGLE in Sth america
Hope this helps
Cheers
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If you're referring to Amazon, they don't ship to Australia.

Found one on eBay from BuySPRY, shipping is USPS for only around $50 with tacking and a decent reputation.
If i did have to RMA though, I could go to a service centre in Australia right?

To be honest, I am not that annoyed with the IO problem, I had it on the Prime, and delt with it. If I get this and it sucks, I will actually buy an iPad. But I doubt it will. I am gonna try and chat to ASUS tomorrow about a refund or a replacement for with an Infinity.

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To be honest, I am not that annoyed with the IO problem, I had it on the Prime, and delt with it. If I get this and it sucks, I will actually buy an iPad. But I doubt it will. I am gonna try and chat to ASUS tomorrow about a refund or a replacement for with an Infinity.
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Problem is... most of the programs that cause the I/O issues on the infinity are not even available on the ipad without a jailbreak.

Or I might actually invest in a decent smartphone. But still, I would love for the Infinity to be able to pan out well.

Spoke to ASUS again about the whereabouts of my Prime, its still in Sydney. The DOA assessment was supposed to be a month ago but since they accidentally sent it to the repair centre, its only happening now. But hopefully, it will come back, I will be able to refund it and get an Infinity from one of these places!

Import Asus Infinity, from US to UK, anything specific need to knows?

Hello Users! My first post (woohoo) and probably a very noobish one.
Now, I've been using this forum for ages, but never made an account, been using it for my nice Sensation XE, got some great roms and help from the forums.
Anyway, more to the point.
In the UK, the TF700T's are about £600 default at the moment and just keep rising, now, I can get a US one for about £340, which is a lot more in my price range.
Now, I know the obvious, I'll need a US to UK transformer. However, is there anything else I need to be worried about? Such as, Keyboard layout? Firmware? Like, anything major that could effect me having an US tablet in the UK.
I don't give a toss about warranty, I'll be rooting it before I even use it. But, just worried incase firmwares are different? Stopping me from rooting/customisation, I'm just a little stuck here, wasn't sure if I should have stuck this in QnAs, but a general discussion sounded better since I know it's a question a lot of people ask, and people might have different takes on it.
Thank you for reading, much appreciated!
Regards
Luke_H

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Such as, Keyboard layout? Firmware?
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Other side of the world here so can't be definite but:
* keyboard - if you get the dock the layout will be slightly different (your ' and @ are transposed I believe and you'll have $ instead of pound sign) but I assume on the tablet itself you have UK keyboards?
* firmware - if similar to here you'll get it faster than others in UK (I got the latest update a day or two before those that bought locally in Oz)
No idea if there are any other ramifications.

Not really. I live in Sweden and bought mine in NY on my last trip there. Haven't experienced any problems at all. So you're good to go.
Sent from my ASUS Transformer Pad TF700T using xda app-developers app

Luke_H said:
Hello Users! My first post (woohoo) and probably a very noobish one.
Now, I've been using this forum for ages, but never made an account, been using it for my nice Sensation XE, got some great roms and help from the forums.
Anyway, more to the point.
In the UK, the TF700T's are about £600 default at the moment and just keep rising, now, I can get a US one for about £340, which is a lot more in my price range.
Now, I know the obvious, I'll need a US to UK transformer. However, is there anything else I need to be worried about? Such as, Keyboard layout? Firmware? Like, anything major that could effect me having an US tablet in the UK.
I don't give a toss about warranty, I'll be rooting it before I even use it. But, just worried incase firmwares are different? Stopping me from rooting/customisation, I'm just a little stuck here, wasn't sure if I should have stuck this in QnAs, but a general discussion sounded better since I know it's a question a lot of people ask, and people might have different takes on it.
Thank you for reading, much appreciated!
Regards
Luke_H
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ARen't you forgetting import duty? If they catch you anyway...

Hm...
The joy of Android is that it comes with all languages installed, so the tablet you can just set to UK English instead of US English, and that changes the Tablet's keyboard, dictionary and such to the UK layout. The dock, however, will be a US layout. Though from what I've seen, all other countries sell the US-layout keyboard anyhow.
You'll most likely get the updates faster, and that probably includes Jelly Bean. (I see people here mentioning updates I've not seen yet, when, ironically, the Dutch stores sold it before the US...) The firmware for US is different from the international one, or at least there are different versions listed.
Actually, most users here are US, and thus use the US firmware. You'll probably have an easier time rooting and customizing your tablet when you have a US one than if you have a UK one.
Just make sure the store shipping it marks the shipment as GIFT, or you'll be paying a massive import fee.

I paid £60 import duty on my 700 from the US to UK. Apart from a £5 US to UK adaptor i still dont think thats too bad. (i didnt get the keyboard as i had my 200 keyboard)
Do it!

I bought mine in the us, the only catch I found is that the nice UK plug is £25 (but well worth it in my opinion).
That version has snap on us plug adaptors but the one in the box is fixed in place

Can you not just use a power adapter? I thought the transformer line had a power transformer which could handle 240 and 110V inputs? Could well be wrong though!

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I paid £60 import duty on my 700 from the US to UK. Apart from a £5 US to UK adaptor i still dont think thats too bad. (i didnt get the keyboard as i had my 200 keyboard)
Do it!
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Hi I have just found this thread, I am also thinking about buying the tf700 from the US, were you sent a import invoice with your tablet? and how long did it take to come from the US?

maxal said:
Hi I have just found this thread, I am also thinking about buying the tf700 from the US, were you sent a import invoice with your tablet? and how long did it take to come from the US?
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Do bear in mind, as others have suggested, if you have it shipped to you via mail order you will almost certainly be hit for 20% VAT for an import from a non EU country
If you travel to the US yourself and carry it back you are less likely to need to pay (although technically the VAT is still due)
That said; I'm using a US keyboard (TF201 - not that there is any difference) I sourced to match the TF700 that I imported from Germany. No problems at all. The biggest difference in key layout is the " and @ are swapped around... but takes no time to get used to that.
Good luck!

Yes you can just us a cheap US to UK adaptor, no need to voltage changes. I paid £5 for one in maplin.
Also if you must have a real UK adaptor (for some reason) then just google tf101 power adaptor in Ebay and get one of those. I bought a real asus 101 adaptor for £15 off ebay, better than spending £30 on a 700 one.