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I have had my XDA2i for just over a year now, but had it replaced just before the contract was up under the warrenty. I have just got a new wizzard from o2 on another years contract, I now stuck on which one to sell and which one to keep.
The wizzard has a smaller screen & slower CPU but wm2005.
The XDA2i is bigger & is WM 2003SE but seems a lot faster.
is there much diffrence between 2003 & 2005.
Apart from that i can't see much else between them, can any post some suggestion on which they would keep & why ?
Cheers
Thanking you in advanced
Im using XDA 2i and felt sad about there's no WM5 upgrade and no extended rom unlocker yet. Hope will be available one day.
Yes Xda 2i working fast, I really felt it and I never had any problem even playing heavy games.
Hope someone expert about WM5/WM2003SE can explain more at here.
thanks
(woo first post ^_^)
So.. umm yeah i expect there are a thousand of these posts around here and you're all fed up with talking about them. But i need to ask you people this...
XDA Mini S (i think this one is the "wizard" right?) or XDA Atom???
Simple issue here... i like the idea of the keyboard on the XDA Mini S, but im not sure if the processor is going to be up to scratch.
And i like the fact the atom has more processing power and a 2MPixel camera (but thats really not that important to me).
So... What would you suggest?
caff.
I suggest waiting for the HTC HErmes. It's got what you want in terms of processor and also keyboard
ahh, i wish but no sorry.. im stuck with xda's as its an upgrade from o2 im getting.
if the processor in the xda mini s is good enough for pretty much everything then ill get that
caff.
No, but presumably O2 would launch something like Xda Mini S2
... and you can always port your number. At the moment T-Mobile look well ahead with their tarrifs.
caff said:
ahh, i wish but no sorry.. im stuck with xda's as its an upgrade from o2 im getting.
if the processor in the xda mini s is good enough for pretty much everything then ill get that
caff.
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I have seen no problem with the O2 mini S processor speed. You have to remember that the processor speed looks slow, but in reality you are not comparing like with like, this is a Texas Instruments chip, with a different command set to other chips you are comparing it with.
I can run all the applications that I want, TomTom for example funs faster on here than on my Dell X5 (400 Mhz).
The one thing you have to remember is that you are not running a Pentium4 3Ghz 2Gig RAM 250Gb Hard drive machine, but a PDA with phone capabilities.
For me, its all I want in a phone/PDA I would not be without mine now.
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I suggest waiting for the HTC HErmes. It's got what you want in terms of processor and also keyboard
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I have a Universal, and a colleague just got one of the new JAM's this week (not the Hermes itself obviously), and I have to say, it makes me kinda want the same form factor again.
Sure I love the laptop type clamshell of the Universal, but usually end up holding the thing flat anyhow when the keyboard is out.
I like the protection a clamshell provides, but I can buy a case.
I like the SD card, but I don't swap my SD with my camera any more, and you can get 1GB Micro SD cards today.
I like the VGA screen, but I wonder if 640x480 is one reason why some map progs seem a bit more sluggish compared to my old slower-processored JAM?
Now that I can get a JAM-sized phone/PDA with 3G, I'm definitely buying the Hermes from T-Mobile when they release it in June as the MDA Vario II.
yeah bilbo i thinik your right, its all to do with comparisons.
but im pretty sure the omap 850 chip has a better cache then the intel chips in the xda IIi. So i think it will probably be ok
if no-one has any major objections i think im going to go for the xda mini s... that is unless the o2 shop guy turns around and tells me something new is coming out in a month hehe.
thanks all
caff.
caff said:
if no-one has any major objections i think im going to go for the xda mini s... that is unless the o2 shop guy turns around and tells me something new is coming out in a month hehe.
thanks all
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One thing to remember when you go to the O2 Shop is that they will charge you £79.99 for the phone on a contract that is less than £45 per month...... unless you ask then not to.
I got my XDA-mini-S soon after they came out. I went to the O2 Shop, looked interested until the guy said there was a charge. After very little he said that to get me on board an O2 tariff he would drop the charge.
Remeber they can and will drop the charge, if not go to walk out and see what they say.
Good luck
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I suggest waiting for the HTC HErmes. It's got what you want in terms of processor and also keyboard
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Looking at the info on the Hermes, I think it has the same 416Mhz IntelXscale processor that my Dell X5 had 5 years go?
Bigger numbers dont mean faster applications.
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Looking at the info on the Hermes, I think it has the same 416Mhz IntelXscale processor that my Dell X5 had 5 years go?
Bigger numbers dont mean faster applications.
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I think it has a 300MHz Samsung? But you're right - "Bigger numbers dont mean faster applications", which is why I'm not worried about it's 300MHz.
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caff said:
if no-one has any major objections i think im going to go for the xda mini s... that is unless the o2 shop guy turns around and tells me something new is coming out in a month hehe.
thanks all
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One thing to remember when you go to the O2 Shop is that they will charge you £79.99 for the phone on a contract that is less than £45 per month...... unless you ask then not to.
I got my XDA-mini-S soon after they came out. I went to the O2 Shop, looked interested until the guy said there was a charge. After very little he said that to get me on board an O2 tariff he would drop the charge.
Remeber they can and will drop the charge, if not go to walk out and see what they say.
Good luck
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Good advice, thanks
ill be going in on wednesday to purchase it, so ill let you all know how it goes
caff.
One thing that no one seems to mention is the screen. The atom has an 18 bit screen and that can give a hit on performance for graphic intensive programs. The transfer of those 18 bits as oppsed to the 16 in most other ppc is ineficient and for games = bad.
Hi all,
I'm thinking of getting the HP iPaq 6915 and have a question regarding selling my XDAIIi. I bought it off eBay about 3 months ago, brand new (Unwanted contract upgrade) and have since unlocked it, and put PUGS rom on it. Is it OK to sell it with this rom? Or should I put an o2 one back on it?
Thanks,
Karl
PS - I was tempted to the 6915 by the keypad and screen cover and some other stuff, including the price I can get it for.
I don't think you'll get into any legal trouble, but your buyers may not fully understand what you mean by it running a different ROM, or not be willing to try it out. To be safest and to get the best selling price, put the newest official rom on it that you can get.
Thanks mikesol. Is it ok to download the latest rom for the 2i from my-xda.com? Or should I get an original from here (If there is one)? And is there a chance I might incur any problems when replacing the rom? Would it be seen as a downgrade and cause trouble?
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hi
Hi sorry if this is the wrong place to as this question but kindly advise
im planning to buy anew Android phone preferably a HTC(no offense to other brands its just the feeling that a known devil is better than an unknown angel that's all i have been using HTC for around 2yrs and absolutely no problem till date)
i was looking at the tatoo but it seems to be same as my jade with android but it seems to be the only affordable for me so can any one kindly advise on which one to buy
i would have been really happy if i could get android os for my jade but it seems to be an impossibility as of now and my crazy itch to buy anew phone and a android is kinda taking over(the wife is gona kik my A**)
Well, if I Were to make a speculation without being biased.. I would say Flash 10 is coming soon enough and according to Adobe the only 2 android phones strong enough to run the full package are the Nexus and the Moto Droid. All the other models (HTC etc.) are running flash light which is a half baked memory hog.. 'but it works'.
Also, 99% of the applications/mods I have seen are working on the Droid or compiled specifically for the droid.
In the case of you being a 'I dont want to or need to root' person I would say simply... If your going to build a computer.. would you build a 486 or a pentium 3 OR would you build something that will at the least run the current existing and immediate next gen software?
Hope Ive helped you out.
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Well, if I Were to make a speculation without being biased.. I would say Flash 10 is coming soon enough and according to Adobe the only 2 android phones strong enough to run the full package are the Nexus and the Moto Droid. All the other models (HTC etc.) are running flash light which is a half baked memory hog.. 'but it works'.
Also, 99% of the applications/mods I have seen are working on the Droid or compiled specifically for the droid.
In the case of you being a 'I dont want to or need to root' person I would say simply... If your going to build a computer.. would you build a 486 or a pentium 3 OR would you build something that will at the least run the current existing and immediate next gen software?
Hope Ive helped you out.
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hi
thanks for ur kind reply but both the phones u mentioned are quite costly in India for them to come down on price i need to wait for may be 6 months but based on ur advise i think it is worth it so ill wait for some time and get one of the two u have advised
thanks buddy for ur kind reply and advise
HarshReality said:
Well, if I Were to make a speculation without being biased.. I would say Flash 10 is coming soon enough and according to Adobe the only 2 android phones strong enough to run the full package are the Nexus and the Moto Droid. All the other models (HTC etc.) are running flash light which is a half baked memory hog.. 'but it works'.
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If the OP wants HTC, why not the Desire? Aiui HTC make both the Nexus for Google & the Desire under their own brand; the two are virtually identical wrt hardware, with the Desire being described by some as the Nexus with HTC's Sense ui added. OTOH the Nexus might get more timely updates than HTC's phones.
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If the OP wants HTC, why not the Desire? Aiui HTC make both the Nexus for Google & the Desire under their own brand; the two are virtually identical wrt hardware, with the Desire being described by some as the Nexus with HTC's Sense ui added. OTOH the Nexus might get more timely updates than HTC's phones.
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hi
thanks for ur kind reply but both the phones u mentioned are also quite costly as they have been recently introduced in my country ie India
so i think i will wait for another 6months usually their is a big drop in price around that time
thank for ur kind advise
a X10i would do the job right
x10 is good now, but will get even better with android 2.1 or 2.2!
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x10 is good now, but will get even better with android 2.1 or 2.2!
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Except that 2.1 will be released in september.
I would advise not to get the Nexus One. The Nexus One has broken multi-touch (because of the sensor that it uses), poor build quality (touchscreen messing up, weird tint on the touchscreen, paint chipping off, etc), and is showing its age already in the USA.
The HTC devices may have flash lite now (I'm talking about the ones that have HTC SENSE) but they are upgradeable to the latest full flash 10.1 once it comes out.
I would go with the HTC Desire or HTC Legend for now but in the USA T-Mobile USA will release the MyTouch Slide (made my HTC) and it will have the same specs as the Nexus One except it will have a 600 mhz processor versus a 1 ghz processor but it has an external keyboard. If you want that, then you can buy it unlocked.
thanks to all who replied
hi
thanks to all who have been kind enough to reply
but looks like all the phones u have advised on are currently too costly in my country(India) around 400 -500$ roughly its kinda costly for me so i have no other option to may be wait for some time till they do come down in price and it does happen all new phones come down on price in about 3-6 months of their intro but thanks guys it was very very nice of you to give me ur kind advise but i dont know why but if i buy i think it would mostly be a HTC brand some how im very happy with my experience with this brand
thanks again guys so nice of you to give me such nice advise
Simple choice...
HTC Desire. IMHO.
I ordered a SIM free HTC Tattoo today. I have 8 months left on my current 18 month contract with my SE W995 which does pretty much most of what I need however I wanted a phone I could use Spotify on and maybe a few other apps. I was torn between the iPhone (yes I know...) and the HTC Desire, both of which I would need to buy SIM free for £400-£450 but in the end I opted for the HTC Tattoo which while limited in specs compared to my other options it'll still do every thing I need from at at only £180! I may get a new phone when my contract ends, but for now I wanted something inexpensive.
would it cost too much to invest in the Motorola Milestone?
thats the out-of-the-US counterpart to the Droid. same hardware but running Android 2.0.1
just throwing that out there.
also, I'm sure you could find a MyTouch or another htc smartphone on eBay for quite cheap.
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You know... good phones are bound to be expensive ...
I'm in a country with similar situation as yours (billions of people!) and I can fully understand the pain you are suffering: want to buy a fair device with reasonable prices.
HTC phones are not cheap at all. Try find a Italian version Dream in gray market. It it old and not fully-functioned like these mentioned above, but its price is also cheaper:250USD in my country with much of the playable features.
Sorry for my poor English. I'm not a native.
TheOriginalKi said:
I ordered a SIM free HTC Tattoo today. I have 8 months left on my current 18 month contract with my SE W995 which does pretty much most of what I need however I wanted a phone I could use Spotify on and maybe a few other apps. I was torn between the iPhone (yes I know...) and the HTC Desire, both of which I would need to buy SIM free for £400-£450 but in the end I opted for the HTC Tattoo which while limited in specs compared to my other options it'll still do every thing I need from at at only £180! I may get a new phone when my contract ends, but for now I wanted something inexpensive.
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i have the jade same specs as the tatoo but with WM thats why im not looking at it u know its like buying the same phone just for the OS thanks buddy
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would it cost too much to invest in the Motorola Milestone?
thats the out-of-the-US counterpart to the Droid. same hardware but running Android 2.0.1
just throwing that out there.
also, I'm sure you could find a MyTouch or another htc smartphone on eBay for quite cheap.
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the milesone has just been into in my country and it is costly for me its around (Rs.32,000 ie roughly around 600$ this is costly for me
bear0811 said:
I'm in a country with similar situation as yours (billions of people!) and I can fully understand the pain you are suffering: want to buy a fair device with reasonable prices.
HTC phones are not cheap at all. Try find a Italian version Dream in gray market. It it old and not fully-functioned like these mentioned above, but its price is also cheaper:250USD in my country with much of the playable features.
Sorry for my poor English. I'm not a native.
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thanks buddy i do undestand that i could also get one cheap in the grey market but some how i prefer to buy the orignal with Warranty
thanks guy this is what i luv about this forum u ask for advise and people are always willing to give good advise and i see this happening more in this forum than any other forum i visited i luv this forum
but right now it looks like i gota wait for some time to buy android
and the worst part almost all HTC phone can run android but the touch3G
but right now it looks like i gota wait for some time to buy android
and the worst part almost all HTC phone can run android but the touch3G
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Actually, these days, it seems that everything anyone wants to do or figure out has been done before.
There is always a way around something.
Proxies, budgets, wants/needs. I'm pretty sure you could get an unlocked iPhone 3G and run Android on it (via OpeniBoot) or go with an unlocked T-Mobile G1. I'd definitely give you any spare android-running phone I had if I had an extra..... I'm sticking to the droid for as long as I can.
Also, try googling around or asking in Yahoo Answers- I'm pretty sure there's someone out there who is a non-horder who just happens to have a spare Android phone. Sorry for your luck My problem is that I can't use my awesome Droid outside of the U.S. (hence why I mentioned the Motorola Milestone, as that would really come in handy for me)
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Actually, these days, it seems that everything anyone wants to do or figure out has been done before.
There is always a way around something.
Proxies, budgets, wants/needs. I'm pretty sure you could get an unlocked iPhone 3G and run Android on it (via OpeniBoot) or go with an unlocked T-Mobile G1. I'd definitely give you any spare android-running phone I had if I had an extra..... I'm sticking to the droid for as long as I can.
Also, try googling around or asking in Yahoo Answers- I'm pretty sure there's someone out there who is a non-horder who just happens to have a spare Android phone. Sorry for your luck My problem is that I can't use my awesome Droid outside of the U.S. (hence why I mentioned the Motorola Milestone, as that would really come in handy for me)
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hi
thats very nice of you thanks for the same but its just a question of time and im sure id get my self some android phone u see prices do crash in my country ie india ill just wait for it to crash eg i got my jage(touch3G) for 420$ 6 months back and now its 340$ thats how it crashes here so ill wait and get mine u see i suffer from a great mobile craze so im bound to change it soom
and yes the wife is gona kik A$$
A decade or two ago I remembered the only time people upgraded were when their device became non-functional. However these days it seems to me that it is norm to change devices every time a newer version comes out. And this form of consumerism is most pronounced in the mobile phone community. Partly because the mobile phone technology evolves faster than other technology.
I wonder how many people still use their until it dies or at least have a upgrade plan (eg I upgrade phone every 3 years, laptop every 4 years, DSLR every 6 years).
I used to upgrade approx every 1.5 - 2 years when I had a dumbphone My first "smartishphone" was the Nokia e70 that still works and I keep it for backup. I then bought an Xperia X1which I used until it died, although about 6 months prior to battery spazzing out I used it as a work phone as I purchased a HD2 for private use. When it died I used a combo of my e70 and HD2. Then last year in November (I think) I then purchased a EVO 3d which I now use as my personal phone and my HD2 as my work phone, the e70 went back in the drawer for when I need it next.
Cool story huh bro? So I guess the moral of it is that I upgrade whenever I cant fight the itch anymore and I never get rid of my old phones even if they are broken.
I upgraded from a dumbphone to my first smartphone: Nokia E72, but I hated the OS when I saw what Android could do, so I bought a SGS. Which I am willing to use till it dies because of the many ROMS and stuff still being made for it.
I only upgrade when my contract is up. It is a 24 month contract so that is when I will upgrade.
For me it is important to get good hardware at the time of purchase and make sure you can load the latest software on top, because at the end of the day what makes the device tick is the software it has inside it... Thank god for XDA community of hackers
I'm using a like 5 year old deskop running vista. I am going to upgrade that once windows 8 comes out.
I have a transformer that i see no reason to upgrade.
MY first phone was an iPhone 3G and i had that for a year till iOS 4 came and totally killed it. Then I upgraded to an iPhone 4 right after they came out in Canada.
Now this month I am upgrading to a Galaxy Nexus because, well the iphones still good, put siri on it and it does what I want to it but i am just sick and tires of iOS and really want something different.
Point and shoots only get replaced when they are destroyed and TV's only get replaced once they stop working
I'm not a big upgrade-a-holic i let my stuff live a good life and i'm upgrading my my iPhone because I still have 18 months on contract and I do not see me using it for another 18 months... and the sooner i get this one the cheaper my next one will be
I go through a ridiculous amount of phones, 5 last year.
I'd upgrade today from my EVO 3d if the HTC edge was out now I love HTC
sent from a galaxy far far away where I actually understand the mods I do to my phone thank fu*k for devs
i may not always wait for it to die, but i'll go a good amount of time with a phone till I like another one, I had a few nokia phones for years, they were just solid
i hate upgrading simply cuz of the fact that you have to extend your contract. i recently got my htc vivid.. and im planning to stick to it until it dies.
Prior to switching over to WP7, I used to "upgrade" my android device weekly or bi-weekly. I was a Craigslist fiend and owned 67 phones in two years.
While I now own all WP7 devices, my daily driver for 9 months was the Dell Venue Pro and is now the Nokia Lumia 800. With WP7 you get high quality regardless of device so the need for frequent updates is kaput.
springy said:
I only upgrade when my contract is up. It is a 24 month contract so that is when I will upgrade.
For me it is important to get good hardware at the time of purchase and make sure you can load the latest software on top, because at the end of the day what makes the device tick is the software it has inside it... Thank god for XDA community of hackers
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This is what I do. I upgrade as soon as AT&T will let me. I hate to extend the contract, but I don't see giving up a cell phone anytime soon, I haven't had a land line for years, so if I upgrade early it is like cutting some time off my contract. On a family plan, paying more than $100 a month they used to let you upgrade the primary line every 12 months (so people could buy each iPhone I think), but that ended this year. So I upgraded to the SGS II, the best device at the time, and still, and it should hold me over until may 2013 when I qualify again. By that time I hope to have LTE in my area too, so I will be able to get a second or third gen LTE phone on AT&T. If something really tickles me before then, I might try the 3 warranty replacement trick to upgrade early, but it'd have to be really good to beat the SGS II.
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A decade or two ago I remembered the only time people upgraded were when their device became non-functional. However these days it seems to me that it is norm to change devices every time a newer version comes out. And this form of consumerism is most pronounced in the mobile phone community. Partly because the mobile phone technology evolves faster than other technology.
I wonder how many people still use their until it dies or at least have a upgrade plan (eg I upgrade phone every 3 years, laptop every 4 years, DSLR every 6 years).
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I pick a time to upgrade my stuff. I aim for about 3 to 4 years out a desktop, but I will go for top of the range CPU, and add more RAM 9 months after getting it... So i7 2600K right now, and 12 GB RAM. That will see me through to 2014/2015 I hope.
Phone, I will see how it goes. I kept my hero from 18 months of date of purchase, but it was pretty diabolical performance-wise after 9 to 12 months, as other devices raced on. My SGS2 is now 8 months old, I think, yet is probably still the fastest all-round device on the market. So I am looking for AT LEAST 2 years out it, perhaps 2.5 or 3...
I only get a new phone when my old one breaks...I would still be on my droidx if the battery hadn't gone to mush and exploded. Now I can only get to the stock recovery.
But it was too early for an upgrade, but once I was on the phone with verizon for awhile and explained what happened they gave me an early upgrade.
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Prior to switching over to WP7, I used to "upgrade" my android device weekly or bi-weekly. I was a Craigslist fiend and owned 67 phones in two years.
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^^ Pretty much this for me too...
The HD7 was the first step to breaking the addiction, and now im planning on keeping my newly acquired HTC TITAN till third gen WP7 phones release. Seriously, the saturation of Android phones are bad for guys like me that like to always be up to date or have the newest thing. No more, WP7 is garanteed support and updates for at least 2 years so I dont have to worry anymore. Plus its great to get away from the Rom addiction and just enjoy the damn phone lol
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Yup! it's been three years with this HTC hero, I wonder how much longer it'll last?
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I would need a very compelling reason to upgrade. My phone dying would be one such reason. The only other would be a new device that ticks all the right boxes for me, and currently the phone i have is the only one that does that.
Carrier upgrades are a no go for me as Vodafone are awful for locking down, branding and delaying updates, even on Nexus devices which should get their updates directly from Google.
Only update when there is something worth updating to. My last phone was the HD2 then went to the captivate but traded it for.the Inspire which is what I had wanted but it hadn't hit yet. Now I will wait for a decent HTC phone to come out that is not just a minor hardware change. Maybe the quadcore will be enuff to make me update but too soon to tell. Inspire still does what I need it to and is fast as hell for me
I've only ever owned 3 smartphones. My first was the iPhone 3GS when it was first released I had it for 1 year and 3 months until it started playing up. I bought the phone outright biggest waste cost me 1G with the Apple care for 2 years. Apple then replaced the phone with a brand new one so I never opened it and sold it on Ebay for $600. I then bought my Desire HD had it for 6 or so months and I couldn't resist the Sensation XE when it was announced so I sold my Desire HD for $322 and bought the Sensation XE for $560 about 3 months ago and I'll have this phone until it dies.
Using my 10 years old pc with windows xp and using till it dies and I change phone when earler dies but I had SE w810 since 2007 and it still works but I wanted something new and small so bought this one and I think I will use it until 2013 summer when contract ends or until his end dont see purpose of spending money on high end phones its better to have psp or psv and small android for everyday using because every day theres new better android on sale but psp will stick few years unchanged and with same performance ofcourse maybe you have lot of money to spend it
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It all depends on the device, but phones in my house have the shortest upgrade cycle (24-36 months) while laptops and desktops can generally be refreshed with upgraded hardware halfway through their lifecycle lasting 4-5 years.
Tablets look like they are going to age fast...