Life of Battery - General Topics

How do I extend the life of my battery. I use my device mainly for sms and phone calls. I found out that it only takes a day or less for my battery. By the way I just had my new unit for 1 week. Is there any upgrade in rom that will prolong the battery life. ROM 1.66.00WWE dated 2/20/04 radio 1.08.00 with extROM version 1.66.165 is in my unit at the moment.
Thanks

rom1.72 is suppose to make the batt last longer
otherwise you can buy an extra batt or get the backpack which also have a batt in it

To lengthen the battery life make sure that all non essential features are switched off like bluetooth and ir receive. Also reduce the screen brightness when running on batteries and make aure the unit is set to switch itself off after a couple of minutes of inactivity. This will help.

Does anyone know if there is an app available that can underclock your processor to let the battery run for longer?

I never noticed the IR receive could be turned off. Thanks for the hint.

just like with pc's then most applications which let you overclock let you also underclock
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=10400
turning off beam under connections is how you turn off the ir

where do I get the rom 1.72?

in the 5th post in the upgrading it forum
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=9053

Thanks again :lol:

Having problem istalling the upgarae to 1.72. I get a connection error and country error. Can I still upgrade my unit even if my unit uses a different operator in the Philippines. I tried modifying the .nbf file using xda2nbftool but still can not upgrade. Any idea to do it?
Thanks

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Huge powerdrain Faria WM 6 WWE

Since two days I'm having a huge power drain on the faria WM6 WWE os. Anybody else having the same problem. I already edited my reg (HKLM/Drivers/SDCARD/ClientDrivers/Class/SDMemory_Class/DisablePowerManagement change this value to 0.) but it won't help.
power drain is losing approximate 5% of battery within one hour...
Never I had this problem with all the others WM6 os versions (until now). And this is bad because I love the faria os versions. Theire good, fast and stable.
i have noticed the same thing, i thought it was something extra i installed but most of the wm6 roms i have tried are battery hungry, i wonder why? if my phone is 100% and i dont make any calls 2 hrs later i go to use it and its at 75%
mun_us rom is wm6 and the battery has never lasted so long since i had it
when i first flashed the rom it installed this cab file straight away with others i have attached it maybe thats whats helping out my battry life
Save That Power
Open up Batery Status by Clicking and Holding the icon for it on the home screen. Tweak the OMAP settings. Set the over clock to or around 260. Then turn the scaler on. set this to the original cpu Speed. That should help. Worked for me.
stp55 said:
Open up Batery Status by Clicking and Holding the icon for it on the home screen. Tweak the OMAP settings. Set the over clock to or around 260. Then turn the scaler on. set this to the original cpu Speed. That should help. Worked for me.
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I had noticed the same with this ROM and tried to enable the scaler. It had no impact. I moved back to mun_rus which as easymob says is much kinder on the battery.
It would be useful if some could confirm his thoughts on this.
I notice that my battery will drain faster when I am using my EDGE connection for internet or streaming purposes, but for anything else the battery seems to last much longer (sitting idle or simple phone calls)...
easymob said:
mun_us rom is wm6 and the battery has never lasted so long since i had it
when i first flashed the rom it installed this cab file straight away with others i have attached it maybe thats whats helping out my battry life
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What does it do?
daheufster said:
What does it do?
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It activates power management for you sd card.
The default setting is off wich means you sd card is running at full power thus draining your battery faster.
With the setting on, power is only consumed when you're actually using the sd card therefore saving your battery.
I used the CPUScaler from BatteryStatusTool which is in rom. Setting it to 121mhz, so battery last for a long time. in standby the cpu dont needs so much frequency, even with programs like im+ in the background.
try this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=34515&d=1172360528
My only suggestion is to turn off IR. That should save you some juice.
It works for me!
SL said:
My only suggestion is to turn off IR. That should save you some juice.
It works for me!
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I just noticed the drainage also. I'll try your suggestion....Thanks
Infrared modules are very efficient in recent devices so should cause very little battery drain at all. I remember a report someone did using their Axim on Aximsite.com and they reported that with IR off the overall extra operating time bonus was less than a minute.
No Probs with MB WM6
I had battery issues with other WM6 roms, but don't have that issue with MB WM6 rom. Not sure what is different.
Try putting your pda near a bunch of IR devices, and watch your pda get battery drained!
neonkoala said:
Infrared modules are very efficient in recent devices so should cause very little battery drain at all. I remember a report someone did using their Axim on Aximsite.com and they reported that with IR off the overall extra operating time bonus was less than a minute.
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Today al of a sudden my battery started draining rapidly. I have the Faria now for a week & was very happy with it. But now my power drops extreme fast. I have nothing new installed. I enabled the powersaving for SD, but that doesn't help. Wondering what's causing this all of a sudden drain.
SL said:
Try putting your pda near a bunch of IR devices, and watch your pda get battery drained!
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Well that's pretty obvious, I meant when the unit is in standby because generally the Wizard isn't going to be near/communicating with IR devices. In standby it is very efficient like most things compared to being powered up. Also I just got Noviiremote coincidentally and I found that the IR module was pretty weak, especially compared to my old Axim, I have to be very close to use it. If its weak then its probably not using much power so I would say IR, unless being surrounded by IR devices a lot is of insignificant drain to the battery.
I also had the powerdrain issue with the Faria rom; but when I deleted the SC.lnk and javapushservice.lnk with the StartUp Manager it seems I lost the powerdrain issue.
I disconnected my phone at 7am this morning and now it's almost 11am and I lost 3% with use of Pushmail, Internet GPRS and 2 phonecalls.
Krypt said:
I also had the powerdrain issue with the Faria rom; but when I deleted the SC.lnk and javapushservice.lnk with the StartUp Manager it seems I lost the powerdrain issue.
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What does these two do? especially SC.lnk? - Sorry. I got the ans. Thanks anyways. I will test and let the forum know.
SC.lnk is the shortcut to rotate the screen; that one should probably have no effect.
The javapushservice.lnk starts the elatepushservice; I assume that one consumes the power

WM6 KILLS the Battery... Help!!

I recently upgraded to WM6 ROM, "Jwrightmcps Crossbow ROM Update 2.02.02 WWE", and all went well.
But then at 40% battery my phone died... and this is very similar to a problem I used to had in WM5.
Can anyone tell me which WM6 ROM doesnt cause the battery problem?
For the record, I don't think either my phone or PDA is damaged. The last time I had this problem, I went back to the service center (several times I might add), and they replaced everything eventually (both PDA and Battery). Since then it has worked fine (for about 6mths+), until I flashed to the WM6 ROM.
**** man, I hope this has not damaged my device. Out of warranty already.
I had a similar problem and also initially didn't beleive it could be the battery, but guess what -- getting a new battery solved almost all problems I had including the phone dying at 40% or above. So it might be worth a try...
IT"S YOUR BATTERY
Just trust me
the battery 'dies' after like 6 to 12 months. It just goes bad in a week.
Mine went out on like 20%, then a week later on 54%
replacing it fixes it.
mine crashes over 20%.... the battery it's new
I had same problem with battery,then I buy new battery from ebay, and then the battery status was OK it goes from 100- 4% with warning and everything. But the problem was that battery last only a couple of hours, even aftzer a few days nothing change I must have charger with me all the time.
Then I search the forum and found someons solution, that works for me too.
Just charge the battery full take the cable out and put it in again a couple of times so the battery is realy full charged, the put the device in bootloader mode by pressing Power + Light + Reset, which brings up an un-backlit screen with "Serial" at the top, and "v0.XX" at the bottom. And then just put your device somewhere and dont touch it until it died that coul be the all day. Anyway next day I put the charger in and again didnt touc for all day. And my problems are gone, the battery since then last fortwo or three days if I dont use it much.
Hope that will help somebody
Dears,
i used to read about this issue in the forum again and again.....so i desided to wrote this post....everyone was claming the battery is the reason....OK do not belive this.....it is the rom.....i used the wm6 for sometime and i was facing the same problem....and when my carrier started the 3G i had to switch back to wm5.....and now my device never turns off before i get notified that my battery level is too low it about 10% of the battery....so if you do not belive me just do this test....switch back to wm5...i am using now Hilme 3.5 v1.3.1
regards
Mine dies at 35% with wm6 and wm5 and my old battery, but never dies with my new battery.
Use Radio 1.15
My battery life increased by 200% just by upgrading to this radio ROM.
same here
i m also sufrer of same problem. now after this forum i m confused
Here is the simple fact of the matter:
Batteries are EXTREMELY complicated pieces of equipment
They often give false readings because the chemical reaction that creates the electricity is easily affected by heat\age\use\etc. Also, the electronics that measure the temperature are based on the false assumption that the battery drains in a predictable way down to the same level.
Your battery draining quicker\slower and dying when it says it has charge may be because of the ROM. However, this is HIGHLY unlikely. What is most likely the cause is external factors (eg heat, number of programs running, etc) or that the battery has "died" or become unreliable.
Recommendation: Try different batteries, and remember that batteries have a chemical reaction, before posting here
I don't know... I started having problems as well just after a ROM upgrade... but it was an official ROM upgrade. I start thinking this has something to do with the upgrade process, like some setting being "wiped out" during the upgrade and the battery going "out of sync" with the device, reporting the wrong battery level...
But, more likely, this is just a psycological effect, you install the new rom and then start playing a lot with the device to find the improvements, and you begin noticing the problem for the first time!
My relatively new I-mate JasJar also started dying when the battery level reached 40% the day i flashed WM6.
i posted here, trying to explain that it was perfectly alright 2 days back, prior to WM6.. pointless to say, everyone still said it was the battery 100%
well.. i got a new battery.. and it did indeed solve the problem.
but guess what.
i flashed WM5 back, and both batteries work fine there.
not sure what the heck is going on here.. but i'm certain there are two fixes:
- flash WM5 back on.
- get a new battery and stay with WM6
astraman said:
Dears,
i used to read about this issue in the forum again and again.....so i desided to wrote this post....everyone was claming the battery is the reason....OK do not belive this.....it is the rom.....i used the wm6 for sometime and i was facing the same problem....and when my carrier started the 3G i had to switch back to wm5.....and now my device never turns off before i get notified that my battery level is too low it about 10% of the battery....so if you do not belive me just do this test....switch back to wm5...i am using now Hilme 3.5 v1.3.1
regards
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I used to think like you, but now I beg to differ, my dead battery never usable under any OS.
It used to be always dead at some % starting from as low as 0 (good ones) and increase until now it is permanent dead at 100%. I have all your intermediate voltages before reaching 100%.
If your's still usable than your battery is not complete dead yet or half dead or maybe soon to be dead.
By the way, I am using helmi_c aku3.5 v1.3 (add on version) as compared to v1.3.1 (vanilla version).
One last thing, please do use big bold characters in forum, sounds like shouting. Thanks!
You cannot judge the battery is old or new by just months.
This older version of Universal battery, it counts by number of time charged I think, inserting in USB for a sync and remove would probably counted as 1 charge.
I now do not sync using those working condition battery, I change to my dead battery for sync purpose.
As I sync only contacts, now Dotfred has a tool and now I hardly use sync anymore.
By the way, there is one guy in this same forum start another thread without reading this (closest info) or all other previous threads.
People like this deserved to be flamed, but I didnt.
IMHO WM6 uses and drains the battery different then WM5
My experience is that everyone that has problems with their device dying just switched to WM6. It has nothing to do with the WM6 itself, it's just that WM6 is more 'sensitive' to a low battery output then WM5. So if you switch back to WM5 it looks like it might 'solve' your problem but in the end the battery will die, it'll just take a little bit longer before WM5 appears to have problems.
You'll postpone the problem for a little while but it's not a fix
Just my 2 cents
CWKJ said:
I used to think like you, but now I beg to differ, my dead battery never usable under any OS.
It used to be always dead at some % starting from as low as 0 (good ones) and increase until now it is permanent dead at 100%. I have all your intermediate voltages before reaching 100%.
If your's still usable than your battery is not complete dead yet or half dead or maybe soon to be dead.
By the way, I am using helmi_c aku3.5 v1.3 (add on version) as compared to v1.3.1 (vanilla version).
One last thing, please do use big bold characters in forum, sounds like shouting. Thanks!
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Mine still working very good at WM5 as i told you.....just let the battery get off and recharge it till full....now mine is working great and keep working until 10% or less
The point is that WM6 treets the battery and power in different way then WM5. First when you upgrade to wm6 and start it first time it assumes that battery is full (the instruction says that you should charge your battery before uploding new ROM). If the battery was not fully charged then you have a problem. WM6 registers the point of current while starting first time and assumes that this level represents the fully charged batteryl. Then it is programmed for consumption of power according to processor cycles, so after such and such time of use of your device it should reach certain level of power. If your battery was not charged full at the start then it will always show false percantage.
The solution is to fully charge the battery (possibly using the way described in some post above) and then reload the ROM once more.
Of cource when you buy a new battery, WM6 registers this (each battery has unic number) and creats new pattern for this battery. That is way it is so importatnt to properly charge the new battery when you load it first time.
Hope this is helpful.
astraman said:
Mine still working very good at WM5 as i told you.....just let the battery get off and recharge it till full....now mine is working great and keep working until 10% or less
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I have 3 original batteries.
In principle, good battery can goes to perfect 0%.
First battery started half dead (that is phone is dead 30%) after upgrade from WM5 AKU1 to WM5 AKU2 happen to be around 6 months after I start using the phone, I thought it was the problem with WM5 AKU2 ROM. My usage pattern of this battery is that I charge anytime I wish with Power charger and also during sync. This battery is still with me now after 1 year I have encounter the problem. The dead % grow (no change of ROM) until now it is around 100%, that is phone is dead just before it goes to 99%.
Second battery was bought the same time my first battery has problem, 1 year passed. Usage pattern are, never use this battery for sync or short connections to PC USB, never charge my battery until it is 0% (always possible) or less than 5%, never upgrade ROM using this battery. Always charge to LED turns GREEN & always sync & upgrade ROM with the dead stuck at 100% battery. 1 year has gone, the second is still able to reach 0% till now with battery last average 1 to 3 days, normally 2 days & sometimes 4 days depends on usage pattern.
Third battery, claim by vendor that some electronics is modified compared to the those bought last year. Charged this battery, use a few time to check if it is an ok battery, need to do this as I have ever bought brand new dead battery last year. After confirmed it is a good battery, I continue using the second battery and third battery always carry along as backup in case I used up the second battery.
Hope my usage pattern can help some of you to have optimal use of the battery and do not let the manufacturer earn extra money due to the problem in the old version of the battery. Anyway, this original battery will be discontinued soon due to end of life of this product. Guess I will have to look forward of getting imitations when my second & third battery is gone or maybe when my phone is gone too.
Tadeusz said:
The point is that WM6 treets the battery and power in different way then WM5. First when you upgrade to wm6 and start it first time it assumes that battery is full (the instruction says that you should charge your battery before uploding new ROM). If the battery was not fully charged then you have a problem. WM6 registers the point of current while starting first time and assumes that this level represents the fully charged batteryl. Then it is programmed for consumption of power according to processor cycles, so after such and such time of use of your device it should reach certain level of power. If your battery was not charged full at the start then it will always show false percantage.
The solution is to fully charge the battery (possibly using the way described in some post above) and then reload the ROM once more.
Of cource when you buy a new battery, WM6 registers this (each battery has unic number) and creats new pattern for this battery. That is way it is so importatnt to properly charge the new battery when you load it first time.
Hope this is helpful.
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uhh...not true...
try to flash you phone at 50% charge...when you boot your battery will still be at 50%
astraman said:
Dears,
i used to read about this issue in the forum again and again.....so i desided to wrote this post....everyone was claming the battery is the reason....OK do not belive this.....it is the rom.....i used the wm6 for sometime and i was facing the same problem....and when my carrier started the 3G i had to switch back to wm5.....and now my device never turns off before i get notified that my battery level is too low it about 10% of the battery....so if you do not belive me just do this test....switch back to wm5...i am using now Hilme 3.5 v1.3.1
regards
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Not so Dears
i have what the american will say as 20/20 and the rst of the world will say as 6\6 corrected vision.
i can read normal 12 pt text pretty well..
and apart from that what you claim is...well NOT TRUE

[REF]Elf's battery drain observation

Hi guys,
I have been struggling for quite a while to investigate why my battery drain is about 150mA best case. I have installed Onyx micro version and disabled almost all unnesessary services and applications, and yet could not live a day even in stand by mode without recharging. Battery capacity is 1100mA, so with 150mA drain, it lasted less than 10 hours per day.
I have checked almost all available ROM's on this site, starting with the original HTC one.
No luck ! So, I've concluded it was no ROM issue. Then, I started to play with IPL and SPL. I had both version 3.14.
To make the long story short, I found the best combination of IPL 3.14 and SPL 3.10
Now I have 91-100mA stand by current drain all the time. Sometimes during the night this value droops to 41mA.
I am preety happy with this and also wonder whether anyone has managed to get a better battery life for his Elf ?
Cheers.
The two things you haven't looked at are the radio and the SIM. I'd try with a different sim for 24 hours and search for the best radio rom. My Elfin battery life is terrible but I think it's down to using M2D.
there is a lot of factor that could affect the battery life, from software, to hardware, the most common problem, is battery age, as old your battery are, the less it will hold the charge. on my elfin I have onyx 5.1.1, IPL 3.10 and HSPL 3.10, radio 3.39.90(I'm having better signal with almost no difference in battery drain) I use the backlight on the second darker step, not the default second brighter one. I usually take no more than 10 calls at day, each one of about 1 to 2 minutes, usually don't use(and is always off) the wifi, the bluetooth I use it occasionally while driving about 3 miles from work to home, and to listen to music at work, 1 or 2 hours per day. data connection(EDGE) is always on, but not used very often just to check email once in a while and update weather once of two time a day.
my battery holds for 2 days, most 2 days and a half.
I think your battery may be the problem, maybe is quite old.
dont forget it can be affected by the network coverage too. in fact some of the power regulation in gsm network is managed from the base station.
EDIT: i mean, besides a hundred other things network-controlled that can affect your battery life, the antenna can actually tell your phone how much power it must use when transmitting.

Abnormal battery drain

Hi,
i have an abnormal battery drain on my mda vario iv. The battery with light use up to 30min internet, 3-4 texts, 5min phone call drains in 5-6 hours. The e mail is set to manual, weather too, wi-fi is off more than 75% of the time,backlight to auto, energy saving to turn off screen and phone... I have the Energy ROM Photon 2, and 1.14.25.35 with matching rilphone. Tried a fer battery cabs, and some GPS cabs, because I have an enormous lag, that seemed to drain the battery even further.
Please help
I changed the radio to 1.14.25.05 with matching rilphone. The problem seems to be with gps, i used the gps for 15min, left it at 80% it went to sleep for 2 hours, and after I woke it up it was on 33%?!!
Help please
51 views no replys. c'mon people, some tips please
Hy Hy,
got the same problem... but don't know why...
I made a radio update to 1.11.25.01 since it is gone.
May be it is a problem with the newer versions?
thanx for the reply
could be, i will try,and report back. Definetely Energy ROM is very power consuming, the best reviews battery-wise are for Timolols roms, but the links are broken, and can not be downloaded. Energy rom is nice and smooth, but the ram consumption on idile is 55%,and that takes a lot of power. I tried a lot of tips from various sites, but nothing seems to work. Is there a program that can measure power consumption in certain moments?
seems like it's your radio as mentioned before. some energy roms have been great on battery life (i've gotten up to 36 hrs!) and some die after 8. maybe try a different version of the energy rom too?
My Ram consumption on idile is 43-48% and i use my Touch Pro to hear Mp3's the hole day at work ... and got a Battery livetime of about 9 to 11 Hours ...
But if i use my Navigation system it dies in about 2-3 hours... is it normal for GPS?
yes it is normal for gps use. 3h is actually a good result
I have had my Fuze for a few days now, also flashed to an Energy ROM (21885) and radio version 1.02.25.32. I am pretty disappointed with the battery life, I have it connected to a USB cable for most of the day, so its charged at work. When I leave at 4pm, the phone is barely touched until 6:30am the following day, at which point the battery is dead.
Wifi, Bluetooth, GPS are all off, I have GLight, ASKicker and nueROM Processor running on Powersave mode. I have not messed with the settings of these much yet, but am surprised at how poor the battery really is.
I will probably end up picking up a 1500mAH battery at some point.
lately ive had terrible battery life because of data.
i have average while texting and just using the phone
but data can take off about 7 pct every 10 mins. that dont seem normal to me

Please help me with battery and internet use

Hey, i have switched my Stock rom to the Energy rom (.sensity version). Phone was taken from recharger around 6:30 and around 15:30 energy has ended. 9 hours while on stock i could get more than 24. During these 9 hours wifi was turned off and backlight set to nearly minimum. I used 3G for around 3 hours and after that i turned it off using comm manager. Is it normal? How much can you get on energy rom? How can i control what applications are turned on and what applications are using internet connection? Maybe there is kind of gps turned on? And i am not sure if it comes to the email that downloads messages.
bumping the thread
I've had terrible battery life with Energy ROMs for the past year or so. Release after release, his ROM never improved and continued to add new but buggy software. The phone would end up warm even when in standby in my pocket or on my desk. It heats up even after resetting the phone and never interacting with it (ie. no apps are running). 3G and wifi are off and the radio and rilphone.dll match. I don't know what causes the phone to heat up but that heat production means the battery is getting drained.
I have happily ditched Energy in favor of Monfro ROM. The phone is now always at a nice ambient temperature, as it should be.
as above test other roms if you still draining battary life real fst then maybe its time to get a new battary. if thoses roms work fine then switch over to them.
also post in Energy roms thread for help.
I had the same problem with the battery life, but with me it was happening in the night, so one time i woke up in night my phone was extremly hot and it had lost 20% battery since 3 hours before.
By that time i used TAEL Rom, I thought it might be the ROM, so i changed it a few times using Energy and other popular roms, but the problem still accured.
Then i change my radio and the problem was gone.
Could be that you have the same problem, but you have to try different things. It could be the ROM it could be the Radio, or it could be your battery.
I would have to agree with LtGenHartman that changing the radio may help or solve an issue. If you have an unbranded and unlocked version of HTC Touch Pro then i would say to find the appropriate radio and flash it (but keep in mind that you can brick your device rendering it useless).
My device is a branded HTC Touch Pro (aka HTC Fuze from AT&T), and since the device is not unlocked I will brick my device for sure. The battery draining is coming from two areas:
1)WM 6.5 does suck up a little more battery life since there are more processes running in the background of the operating system. Devices that do run WM 6.5 natively may not have this issue since it is optimized to run on that particular device. Also, there maybe a larger capacity battery that a device is using so battery drain is no longer an issue.
2) HTC Sense UI does drain more battery. It is a combo of processes running in the background to run the UI. It is also that there are fancy animation like the weather and transitions. Try eliminating some tabs that you do not use (For me I eliminated Stocks, Twitter and Facebook). It will free up some RAM and it processes will decrease. This may indirectly affect the battery life. Try using the standard Windows Default aka Titanium UI to see if there is a difference.
For the actual battery, try draining the battery completely before giving your device a full, healthy charge before you go to bed. I notice a bit of a difference in my favor since I did that a few days ago. I read this will recalibrate the battery giving a more accurate discharge.
When you are not using the internet on your phone remember to switch off all the data radios (disconnect from the data network, switch off WiFi). I think its ok if your device is finding the 3G network but as long as you are not connected to it, no data is being constantly sent and received so the battery life should increase. Try also switching all your apps that do use the internet to a manual switch rather than auto updating.
Just remember the stock WM 6.1 ROM has less processes, TouchFlo3D has less animations and tabs to use and the ROM was optimized for your device. That is why you will be getting the best battery life results.
These are some tips for you to try out, let us know if this help any. I don't expect a massive increase in battery life but some does help and from my experience does go a long way.
Separate issue: I do notice that the battery reader is not as accurate either. I notice that if i reboot the device the battery meter decreases (for example, if i reboot a device with 65% life i notice after reboot it can go as low as 50%). Wondering why that is?

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