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Is there a application that could execute a remote task29 if phone gets stolen?
Most of theves are dump so would not know how to put the OS back on.
The normal way of IMEI blocking does not work, some networks will not care to block, some will not communicate to others so it will be blocked for example on O2 but not t-mobile... We all also know that you just need to sell a IMEI blocked unit abroad.
Two functions would need to be present:
Function 1 a remote wipe so you send a txt message.
Function 2 is to wipe the phone if new sim is inserted and password is not provided. Such software would need to be able to cook itself in to rom.
Second possibility for Function 2 is each time new sim is inserted a txt message is sent on pre-arranged mobile number and then use remote wipe.
lookout mobile security has that feature of remote wipe.
www.mylookout.com
antivirus, remote wipe, and gps locator all work.
nrfitchett4 said:
lookout mobile security has that feature of remote wipe.
www.mylookout.com
antivirus, remote wipe, and gps locator all work.
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It is not even remotely the same as even if you do wipe the device it is still usable, there is just you data erased. I am talking OS erased so phone does not work, so you can get it to bootloader and only if you know how.
ruscik said:
It is not even remotely the same as even if you do wipe the device it is still usable, there is just you data erased. I am talking OS erased so phone does not work, so you can get it to bootloader and only if you know how.
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considering you cannot even task29 unless you are synced to a computer, how do you suppose this can be accomplished???
nrfitchett4 said:
considering you cannot even task29 unless you are synced to a computer, how do you suppose this can be accomplished???
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I am not a software developer but I would say a app that works just before OS boots.
TBH task29 seems like the best idea as if you were to get the phone back you could get it back online but any app that would brick the phone remotely is what one needs.
I am quite certain something like that could be done.
why not have it flash a bricking radio from sd card or within the rom, if the command is send?
how about an app then makes the phone transform into a plane and fly back to you?
its impossible what you are asking for afaik
davidgk said:
how about an app then makes the phone transform into a plane and fly back to you?
its impossible what you are asking for afaik
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Bolox I can flash radio or OS from SD card. All a app would need to do is get phone to bootloader on command and have, as suggested, a bricked rom for radio on SD card. A bricked radio rom would not need to be big in size so a cab installer would work.
Its a very good idea, hope some1 can do it..
my hats off to you sir, a very good idea!
Now if there is only a developer skilled enough to realise it!
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Bolox I can flash radio or OS from SD card. All a app would need to do is get phone to bootloader on command and have, as suggested, a bricked rom for radio on SD card. A bricked radio rom would not need to be big in size so a cab installer would work.
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but what does this achieve for you???
A phone wiping program would wipe personal data.
What would bricking the phone do except make the phone unusable?
You'll still be out a phone...
nrfitchett4 said:
but what does this achieve for you???
A phone wiping program would wipe personal data.
What would bricking the phone do except make the phone unusable?
You'll still be out a phone...
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Might be so, but if knowledge gets around that more and more phones can (and will) be bricked remotely once stolen, why steal?
I think it would be a very useful feature on any phone.
So I agree with the question for such an app.
Regards,
nrfitchett4 said:
but what does this achieve for you???
A phone wiping program would wipe personal data.
What would bricking the phone do except make the phone unusable?
You'll still be out a phone...
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Well why do you fit a alarm on a car when it is gone it is gone, why do you put alarm in a house when they come they come.
Something odd with this statement. Why would you think it is ok for some one who stole my phone to use it when I had to work for it?
For me best solution would be to have it wired with C4 and 5s in to first phone call boom!!!
As that would be illegal second option brick the phone.
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Well why do you fit a alarm on a car when it is gone it is gone, why do you put alarm in a house when they come they come.
Something odd with this statement. Why would you think it is ok for some one who stole my phone to use it when I had to work for it?
For me best solution would be to have it wired with C4 and 5s in to first phone call boom!!!
As that would be illegal second option brick the phone.
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Since when does a car alarm or home alarm burn down my house or car? That is essentially the same thing. If someone breaks into my house and steals my 60" dlp, I can't remote detonate it either.
I'm guessing that I don't understand. Maybe it is my long history with cdma phones that had esn's that could be blocked making the phones worthless (usually) once stolen.
Ill build it .... i just need a few beta testers?
Any takers?
jk.. i actually like the idea of disabling my phone if i knew it was gone for sure. .but i dont think i would be comfortable running around with this bomb in my phone unless i knew how to fix it.. and a bricked radio (easiest remote detonate solution) is obviously unfixable.
you know I was hoping this topic was headed in a different direction. like the phone company or microsoft running ras commands. like injecting and changing your files around so when you go to flash the seed will be planted for later execution. but dude if your phone gets stolen beat the punk bastards ass. or make sure you have handset protection. stupid topic. its just gonna add to the bricked my phone posts but not before they go on a couple of paragraphs of how they know what there doing but this and but that. wow then its gonna keep spreading like a ****ing plauge of dumb ass questions instead of keeping their cocksucker shut and read and learn. if your not f-ing it up, then your not learning.
i remember the sony ericsson p910, p990, and p1i could have set a sim password that works the same way the bios password works on most laptops with this feature... once the sim changed or the phone is flashed, the password must be entered to boot into the OS, personally i think this should be standard on every mobile OS...
and regardless how much times you reinstall windows, flash the bios, or remove the bios battery, the password remains, kinda annoying but at least it works
There are already some really good apps available for if your phone is lost or stolen. I don't know the names off the top of my head but I did some help on development on one 2 years ago and it was quite advanced and will send you silent text containing the new IME number if changed and the GPS location. Rendering the phone useless would be stupid in my opinion if you intend on retrieving it. let the security software do it's job and be happy to get your phone back.
Hey everyone
My friend has a gsII and was asking me how to back it up to his pc because he migt be changing phones. Not sure if he is sticking with android or not, but wants to back it all up. If he leaves android, he will probably just want all of his contacts, music, etc... In the past i have used tibu, but that was for switch roms and saving apps and stuff. I have never backed up on my pc so wasnt sure what to tell him. What is the best way for him to back-up to his PC?
Thanks for all the help!
Heuser1 said:
Hey everyone
My friend has a gsII and was asking me how to back it up to his pc because he migt be changing phones. Not sure if he is sticking with android or not, but wants to back it all up. If he leaves android, he will probably just want all of his contacts, music, etc... In the past i have used tibu, but that was for switch roms and saving apps and stuff. I have never backed up on my pc so wasnt sure what to tell him. What is the best way for him to back-up to his PC?
Thanks for all the help!
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Well the Infuse isn't compatible with the Kies application but maybe the GS2 is. That would be your best bet in backing up the phone. He might also try Kies Air. Of course for anything on the sd card, you can just mount it to the PC and copy it off. You might want to try asking the GS2 forum the same question.
http://www.androidstatic.com/use-dropbox-and-safe-backup-to-wirelessly-back-up-your-photos
You can actually use this to back up to a local drive/folder.
jvanlew said:
Well the Infuse isn't compatible with the Kies application but maybe the GS2 is. That would be your best bet in backing up the phone. He might also try Kies Air. Of course for anything on the sd card, you can just mount it to the PC and copy it off. You might want to try asking the GS2 forum the same question.
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Dam, and here I thought that I was accessing my Infuse with Kies.
Wonder why it said that it edited and saved my contacts when it really didn't.
Wonder why it allowed me to transfer music to my phone when it really didn't.
Wonder why it says that it connects to my Infuse when it really doesn't.
Yes I'm being smart, but I can and have accessed my Infuse using Kies.
I usually just use adb pull to backup absolutely everything, that or just make a rom backup through recovery that way everything is there. Would take a little work to sort through everything though..
I am looking for any programs that are on the market for data recovery on smart phones. Ones like the ones you can get for when your home computers. I do alot of data recovery on PC's and I have yet to find a program that can handle cell phones. Alot claim they can, but they fall short and usually only pull up the data that is already on your phone. I have tried some of the undelete guides here and they don't do much.
Go to www.filehippo.com
Download recuva
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http://www.filehippo.com/download_recuva/
Enjoy
Its the best darn free data recovery out there.
I have used it on varius hard drives can be used for you phone to.
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freakboy13 said:
Go to www.filehippo.com
Download recuva
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http://www.filehippo.com/download_recuva/
Enjoy
Its the best darn free data recovery out there.
I have used it on varius hard drives can be used for you phone to.
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It doesn't work at all. It will not see my phone at all. The same with many other programs that claim they are for smart phones. Some are only for SD cards. For SD cards, any program on the net works.
I don't know if anyone here has heard of this program, its called Encase. Its a forensic tool that the Police use for recoverying data from your HD's. I have this program, its worth over $5000 to buy. I am looking for something like that. It does cover Cell phones, but I don't want to shell out money to get it. I was hoping to find another program to use.
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I don't know if anyone here has heard of this program, its called Encase. Its a forensic tool that the Police use for recoverying data from your HD's. I have this program, its worth over $5000 to buy. I am looking for something like that. It does cover Cell phones, but I don't want to shell out money to get it. I was hoping to find another program to use.
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Wut?
You have 5k$ recovery program that works with phones but you want something thats free instead?
Idk but if I was in forensics or a cop id say your story doesnt add up.
No offense but now it sounds like you're trying to break into someones phone.
Just sayin.
Why would you need a free (and probably limited) file recovery program when you have a program used by leo's?
Oh and my bad I forgot to mention recuva does not work with your phone in mtp mode. Let your pc read it as a hard drive.
Afaik for android there is no specific file recovery exclusively for android phones.
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freakboy13 said:
Wut?
You have 5k$ recovery program that works with phones but you want something thats free instead?
Idk but if I was in forensics or a cop id say your story doesnt add up.
No offense but now it sounds like you're trying to break into someones phone.
Just sayin.
Why would you need a free (and probably limited) file recovery program when you have a program used by leo's?
Oh and my bad I forgot to mention recuva does not work with your phone in mtp mode. Let your pc read it as a hard drive.
Afaik for android there is no specific file recovery exclusively for android phones.
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ok, I may have posted it wrong. I have a copy of Encase that is worth $5g's to buy. I should have said I don't want to shell out money to buy the current versions that do Cell phones. Its worth $10g's Sorry. I am also a collector of data recovery software. Its a field that fascinates me. And a hobby of mine
Thanks for the info about the MTP mode, I will see if I can remove drivers and what not to get it to see it as a HD. I have played around and could seem to get that to work.
TheStrokerace said:
I am looking for any programs that are on the market for data recovery on smart phones. Ones like the ones you can get for when your home computers. I do alot of data recovery on PC's and I have yet to find a program that can handle cell phones. Alot claim they can, but they fall short and usually only pull up the data that is already on your phone. I have tried some of the undelete guides here and they don't do much.
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you try using Xperia CWM Auto-installer.
I use Easy Data Recovery to recover any files on memory card and hard drive. And It is work for me and the most files is back.
upineter said:
I use Easy Data Recovery to recover any files on memory card and hard drive. And It is work for me and the most files is back.
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I don't care about the SD card, any software will recover from an SD card. Its the internal memory that I need to recover.
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TheStrokerace said:
ok, I may have posted it wrong. I have a copy of Encase that is worth $5g's to buy. I should have said I don't want to shell out money to buy the current versions that do Cell phones. Its worth $10g's Sorry. I am also a collector of data recovery software. Its a field that fascinates me. And a hobby of mine
Thanks for the info about the MTP mode, I will see if I can remove drivers and what not to get it to see it as a HD. I have played around and could seem to get that to work.
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I'm guessing you are referring to the fact that you have EnCase 6, since EnCase 7 allows smartphone acquisition. However, all you really need is to image the device, and then you can bring in that image into EnCase 6. You could try using FTK imager to see if it will image the device.
If you really need open-source forensics, you can try using Helix, or Caine.
syung said:
I'm guessing you are referring to the fact that you have EnCase 6, since EnCase 7 allows smartphone acquisition. However, all you really need is to image the device, and then you can bring in that image into EnCase 6. You could try using FTK imager to see if it will image the device.
If you really need open-source forensics, you can try using Helix, or Caine.
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Thanks, I will look into those. I have Encase 4.2 and a poorly cracked version of 6. I did use the method to get an RAW image of the phone. I will look at Helix and Caine.
back up your hole phone data with a nandroid backup and move this to your pc
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backup pieces of android or your apps with titanium backup pro and move the files to a pc
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Hi again!
I have a bricked S3 that I have to send back to Verizon, as they shipped me a new one that is working
I am concerned about them being able to access files and texts that are saved on the internal phone memory. Since I cannot get my phone started to delete these, is there anything I should be concerned with, or anything I can do to make sure they will definitely NOT be able to access these?
I am anal when it comes to stuff like this, I have a ton of saved passwords and everything... all it takes is the wrong person to be the one handling my phone there
Any ideas/advice is appreciated!
Meliette said:
Hi again!
I have a bricked S3 that I have to send back to Verizon, as they shipped me a new one that is working
I am concerned about them being able to access files and texts that are saved on the internal phone memory. Since I cannot get my phone started to delete these, is there anything I should be concerned with, or anything I can do to make sure they will definitely NOT be able to access these?
I am anal when it comes to stuff like this, I have a ton of saved passwords and everything... all it takes is the wrong person to be the one handling my phone there
Any ideas/advice is appreciated!
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I doubt they will look at your files. They most likely determine the issue, fix it, and then get the phone ready to be used as CPO.
there is nothing you can do if it won't boot, short of microwaving it or using a hammer. It is possible that someone could J-Tag the phone and restore operation and possibly find your porn, but unlikely that Verizon will bother taking the time.... unless its really good porn.
I was scared for a bit too when I returned my old phone, but nothing happened. I'm sure it's not allowed. And even if it was it's just unnecessary effort, Samsung gets ALOT of phones in, it would be a huge waste to crawl through every one
Pretty soon, I plan to sell my current phone, and some old tablets, in order to make money towards the new Nexus devices. I'm wondering, though, are there any security concerns for someone potentially being able to recover my data if I sell my phone off? Obviously, this is a big deal to me, because I have all my Google accounts (my primary one being the one I use my credit card through) connected to me phone. Being that my devices all have TWRP installed, my primary thought would be to use that to wipe the internal storage, and do a factory reset. But is it possible someone could still manage to recover my data somehow?
I hear people talk about this for PCs, and hard drives, about how if someone really wanted to, they could theoretically recover your data even if you reformat your computer. Is that possible on smartphones as well, or is it different, due to phones using what I assume is flash memory (or whatever type of memory, that's different from a computer HDD)?
I just want to make sure I take every precaution before I sell my phones off. Granted, I already use two-step authentication on all my Google accounts, anyway, but still. I don't want any risk of something bad happening.
Just make sure to flash a stock ROM on each of them a few times and you will be fine. Can it be done? Yes only if the space has not been over written. That is the reason for the extra Flash's.
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Just make sure to flash a stock ROM on each of them a few times and you will be fine. Can it be done? Yes only if the space has not been over written. That is the reason for the extra Flash's.
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So how many flashes should be enough to be safe? And do you have to boot up the phone in between flashes? Or could I just sit in TWRP, flashing the ROM over and over and over again?
mrw1215 said:
So how many flashes should be enough to be safe? And do you have to boot up the phone in between flashes? Or could I just sit in TWRP, flashing the ROM over and over and over again?
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I would just flash a few times in recovery. No real reason to reboot.
So "a few" would be what? 3? 5? 10+? What's a safe number?
mrw1215 said:
So "a few" would be what? 3? 5? 10+? What's a safe number?
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3 To 5 times should be enough. This is the same thing a DOD wipe does. It over writes the system a bunch of times so any data in unrecoverable.
Okay, thanks for the info.
I guess, alternatively, I could just change all the passwords to my stuff while I'm in between phones, because then, even if someone was able to recover my data, they wouldn't be able to log in since the passwords would have changed, eh?
I dunno. That's going to be so much work, but I'm super paranoid about keeping my data safe, so I'm not sure I can put my faith in making my data unrecoverable by flashing a ROM multiple times. I was kind of hoping that phone memory worked differently than a computer HDD, in that regard, and that it wouldn't have been an issue, but...
mrw1215 said:
Okay, thanks for the info.
I guess, alternatively, I could just change all the passwords to my stuff while I'm in between phones, because then, even if someone was able to recover my data, they wouldn't be able to log in since the passwords would have changed, eh?
I dunno. That's going to be so much work, but I'm super paranoid about keeping my data safe, so I'm not sure I can put my faith in making my data unrecoverable by flashing a ROM multiple times. I was kind of hoping that phone memory worked differently than a computer HDD, in that regard, and that it wouldn't have been an issue, but...
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You could but ill be honest. Anything that would be needed to recover any real useful info like passwords or such would take a level of skill most people do no posses. The easiest thing to recover are pic and such as that is stored on a different partition then the info your trying to protect.
I am also super careful when I sell old devices. So a simple couple of extra min in recovery is worth it. I also make sure to return the device to stock before I let it go. Just to be sure.