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Over The Air ROM flashing

Cool?
http://www.modaco.com/content/windo...out-rom-update-ota-via-apptodate/#entry891567
Chefs, PM me if you want to implement
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modaco said:
Cool?
http://www.modaco.com/content/windo...out-rom-update-ota-via-apptodate/#entry891567
Chefs, PM me if you want to implement
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That would be cool but it's something way out of my league. I will just wait for it to be implemented. It's been a while since I visited your site last.
Where would the update be stored temporarily though because both RAM/ROM gets erased, unless bootloader supports internet connection? Oh well, still, out of my league.

Amazing....

Awesome stuff!! I hate putting cables in to my Kaiser and I can never be sure that it will sync either in XP or Vista. This is the future.

This has the possibility to completely change how we use our devices!
Really Well Done on creating this Paul
For the love of god, Chefs USE THIS!!!

wonder how many phones will get bricked before they figure out how to make it work good and safe?

cjmedina said:
wonder how many phones will get bricked before they figure out how to make it work good and safe?
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you know you can get more spare parts that way

Very, very cool.

None of course, because it doesn't overwrite the bootloader.
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This is going to make life easier for everyone when we know that it is 100% safe. WooHoo. start implementing and lets really push ROM cooking and flashing to the next level

what is a rom and why might i need a new one?

hey,
of course i know what a rom is. somehow. but why would i need a new one?
[i found everything what i was asking myself by using the forum-search.
but no answer to this essential question. shouldn´t that be somewhere
in the wiki?]
thx for beeing noob-friendly
kws

Its just user customization, you don't really need one. alot of people just prefer them.

joel2009 said:
..just prefer them.
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but why? whats better/different? there must be a reason why so many
people spend their time creating them.
i found so much software (and dont even have a ppc yet) to get the best
out of wm. thats really amazing. so what can a custom rom do, what a
third-party software couldn´t?
the one thing i could imagine right now: i like the possibility to change the
look of my device with things like "spb mobile shell". but i would rather like
to change the wm-gui itself. take away what i dont need, instead of adding
more stuff to the os (thats why i still use winXP with the old 2000-shell).
in order not to waste precious cpu- and ram-power to things i dont need/want.
thx for the answer.
hf
kws

to get the latest and the best
HTC takes so much of time releasing the official updates
so if you want the latest you have to depend on custom ROMs
and you can even get stuff which is not meant for your phone
like touch flo,manila interface etc

sheennick123456 said:
and you can even get stuff which is not meant for your phone
like touch flo,manila interface etc
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i thought touch flo is ment for my phone (it comes with it). and i thought
manila is just like a "codename" for touchflo!?
anyway... so if there is a bug or something like that and htc takes month
to release updates, the xda-devs come and create their own roms.. or if
someone would find out that the hd actually has everything hardware-
related whats needed for tv-out, he could make a rom that supports that?
and a rom is always specific to one model of a device?!? you cant use a
kayser*-rom for eg a diamond, can you?
where can i find a list of all availiable rom´s (especially for blackstone and
raphael).
thank you!!
kws
(* soze!

kweso said:
but why? whats better/different? there must be a reason why so many
people spend their time creating them.
i found so much software (and dont even have a ppc yet) to get the best
out of wm. thats really amazing. so what can a custom rom do, what a
third-party software couldn´t?
the one thing i could imagine right now: i like the possibility to change the
look of my device with things like "spb mobile shell". but i would rather like
to change the wm-gui itself. take away what i dont need, instead of adding
more stuff to the os (thats why i still use winXP with the old 2000-shell).
in order not to waste precious cpu- and ram-power to things i dont need/want.
thx for the answer.
hf
kws
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Well for example by removing things from a rom you don't use, you can make your phone faster or have more memory.
Sometimes program such as manilla run better or faster when they are built into a rom.
Flashing a new rom means that if you hard reset, you will reset back to the rom you flash.
You can put new program and or drivers stripped from another phone (omnia, opal, ect) (this would be useful beacuse they may be newer and more improved)
Its all a matter of opinion on what you want to do with your phone, if you need help with something you are trying to get you need to giver us an example so that we can give you an example of pluses and draw backs. (there are alot of things it does and its hard to just list them)

well, thank u very much. i think i get it now. somehow like n-lite for desktop windows. but still it would be nice to have a list in the wiki with all roms, their compatibilites and main features...
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...what you want to do with your phone
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do you know the tricorders from star trek?
muchas gracias, again..
cu

Ya and i would like a microwave to cook food with built into mine .......

well...
actually...
if you could manage to modify the frequency of the radio...
hmm...

or something like this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W53W_zOwG4k

but back to topic:
is there an overview over the existing roms? seaching this
forum for "rom" is not quite effective.
or is there a "what is possible with a custom rom"?
sorry if this questions sound stupid to you. but so i am
thx gn8
kws

It may makes xda more interesting～

well... you would be a great salesman!
could you specify this?
thx

(Think Tank) Flash Player 10.1 on Android 2.1!

It's possible?
Maybe you can......Previously you did a lot of thinks!!!
Great xda!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Thank for All

it is possible , but only for devices with sense, they have a optional command in browser for handling plugins , whit that command application can inject flash instead of flash lite -> http://android.modaco.com/content/htc-desire-desire-modaco-com/311496/flash-10-1-get-it-now/

chazzbg said:
it is possible , but only for devices with sense, they have a optional command in browser for handling plugins , whit that command application can inject flash instead of flash lite -> http://android.modaco.com/content/htc-desire-desire-modaco-com/311496/flash-10-1-get-it-now/
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is there a link to that zip file that doesnt require you to register at that website?

Seems kinda like a waste of effort. The 2.2 AOSP just came out and we've already got 2 roms that work, albeit very early and limited ones.
It's only a matter of time before a proper 2.2 rom comes out and developers with talent should focus on getting 2.2 out there rather than trying to optimize 2.1 to run flash

would a attempt for this on dount be possible? the speed on that with out old g1's with flash would be great

At this point, it's definitely easier to just port Froyo. And that's already in progress anyway.
Sent from my Nexus One

Try the skyfire browser. It loads up flash videos and tranlates it to something our g1's can read. As far as I understand it, the flash player on the nexus has tons of hardware specific stuff that stop it from working on other builds (processor, screen size, etc). Besides, skyfire loads up futurama episodes perfectly=p

Where do you watch Futurama?

mejorguille said:
Try the skyfire browser...
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Yea skyfire plays 90% of videos =]

That's Great.

You're not going to make flash 10 work on an arm7 device because it's compiled for arm8.
What you could try is pulling the flashlite plugin from a hero build (made for msm7k) and try to get it plugged to the new browser, since it accepts plugins.
There's coding required, though, and I've no idea about browser plugins.

I don't think this is a good idea for a number of reasons. Processing power, lack of ram, lack of storage space, small screen, etc...

reuthermonkey said:
I don't think this is a good idea for a number of reasons. Processing power, lack of ram, lack of storage space, small screen, etc...
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Yes, I completely agree. If you simply want flash so much just buy the damn phone, you have to take in consideration what our devices are capable of. You can only push it to some point, until it goes poof. Just please, enough with the whole flash topic it's giving me a headache.

I used the flash 10 port for the evo. On kings legend. .. worked...ish. got a Facebook game to load and videos
But it was horribly slow.

PJcastaldo said:
I used the flash 10 port for the evo. On kings legend. .. worked...ish. got a Facebook game to load and videos
But it was horribly slow.
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Sounds great for the possibility of porting flash 10 to g1 theoretically... thought this wasnt possible. Could you go to http://www.whatismyflash.com/ with the browser to check if its using the flash 10 and not the flash lite built in in kings legend2g1 rom? :> thanks in advance

Anyone else get the impression that the OP has no idea about the technical roadblocks involved in this?

gophergun said:
Anyone else get the impression that the OP has no idea about the technical roadblocks involved in this?
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+1
I've always wondered, are half of you stuck in some black hole with no PCs with nothing to do but watch videos all day? If you want your phone to be a laptop... go buy a damn laptop! You can get a very nice one for the same price as a Nexus One. Sheesh.

Don't start a "think-tank" thread if you, the OP, aren't going to do any thinking to begin with.
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I dont think it is possible with 2.1 .....but g1 can handle 2.2 and might be able to handle flash too
http://www.androidguys.com/2010/05/20/google-froyo-technically-g1/
i am pretty sure that Cyanogen will find a way...just like he did for 2.1

[Think Tank]Flash Lite on Froyo

Hey guys,
since we know that full flash 10.1 won't work on our devices (or its an disproportionate act to port it, because its not open source and due to the fact that flash 10.1 is not meant g1's processor).
But what about flash lite (which we know is working on g1 from the sense ROMs)? I read that the froyo browser does accept plugins (well he accepts the flash 10.1 on capable phones).
So did someone tried to port it? I know this is not the major thing on froyo, its hard enough to get the rest working properly (and i really thank those devs for spending so much time on it!!!). Many people would love to see at least flash lite on our devices. And in my humble opinion little flash animations worked fine for me on the sense roms with flash lite.
I tried to install the flash lite apk on the froyo roms availlable ... but it returned only fc's for me in browser. By now i am not running froyo but i will put some rom on and try to get a logcat on it.
Greetings

Crazy Idea: Why not make a port of an open source flashplayer (like lightspark) to ARM hardware?
[Yes, I know thats probably somewhere between inconveniant and impossible, but hey, it's a think tank ]

mblaster said:
Crazy Idea: Why not make a port of an open source flashplayer (like lightspark) to ARM hardware?
[Yes, I know thats probably somewhere between inconveniant and impossible, but hey, it's a think tank ]
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MUCH MUCH BETTER idea. Certainly not impossible. In fact VERY POSSIBLE.
There are a few issues to work through in it though, certain dependencies on things like PULSEAUDIO, which we don't have on android (but would be nice if we did...)
There are actually THREE open source flash projects to work from.... gnash, swfdec, and lightspark. The first two are based on reverse engineering and tend to work. lightspark is from SPEC, is much NEWER, and really doesn't work yet. Lightspark is the best FOUNDATION, but is behind in FUNCTION.
Note: flash is a bad idea no matter how you look at it. You don't need it, it doesn't do anything USEFUL, I suggest just ignoring it. PURIFY! Let flash DIE!

lbcoder said:
PURIFY! Let flash DIE!
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Yeah, HTML5 FTW!
Now that iCrap officially banned flash many sites will at least alternatively offer html5 support, because otherwise the iPhonies cry.
Most of the flash content is unwanted commercials anyway. I would hate going on some site and swoop away 5MB of my data plan (which gets downgraded to gprs speed if I get above 200MB/month) with some nagging commercial video... (€: OK, this could also happen with html5... would hate it anyway)

well i know that if flash lite could be rid of its dependency on sense it would work. it has the correct settings to work . it has 2 different ways to enable flash while the flash 10.1 has only one of those. you would have to check the 2.1 port of 10.1 to understand what im talking bout. it might also need to be built on 2.1 or 2.2.

wizern23 said:
well i know that if flash lite could be rid of its dependency on sense it would work. it has the correct settings to work . it has 2 different ways to enable flash while the flash 10.1 has only one of those. you would have to check the 2.1 port of 10.1 to understand what im talking bout. it might also need to be built on 2.1 or 2.2.
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youre right ^^ the dependency of sense is the point which prevents flash for working on froyo out of the box in my opinion. I was thinking the problem of the non-sense (not nonsense lol) browser was, that it wasnt capable to use plugins. But it looks like that the whole sense framework has something to do with flash working on sense roms. Maybe some dev could take hand on that flash lite and compare it to how the flash 10.1 plugin interacts with froyo and the browser.
I aggree with all of you that flash might die and that there are better possiblities to create an active web ... but its a fact that its heavily used in the web (so with a dataplan youre not forced to use flash ... its just that i hear many ppl wanting it). I dont wanna start a discussion about usability of flash -this is just about how to port it to froyo on g1 for ppl who like to see it

Well from the port thread over in the ego forum they found that both versions of flash have a similar plugin method for the browser. I will have to find it later.
Sent from my HTC Magic using XDA App

wizern23 said:
Well from the port thread over in the ego forum they found that both versions of flash have a similar plugin method for the browser. I will have to find it later.
Sent from my HTC Magic using XDA App
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Sounds interesting! I searched the thread but didn find it. If the method of linking the plugin to the froyo browser was similiar there might be a possibility to use the flash lite without the sense framework i am curious to read that

Has anybody tried to use not just only the flash.apk but also the libs that come in sense 2.1 roms?
because missing libs can well be the cause of force closes...
alternatively we can wait until froyo comes out for sense phones like the hero...

There was another [THINK TANK] for this.... it died. Hopefully this will, too.

I tried modifying an APK to do this. I put the flash lite plugin in the flash APK and flashed on CM6.... Didn't work, their was no force closes, it did not even show up as a plugin.

r3s-rt said:
There was another [THINK TANK] for this.... it died. Hopefully this will, too.
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the other think tank was on full flash/flash 10.1 for eclair ... this is / was impossible and not a very clever idea.
This is about porting flash lite which we know from sense roms works on our devices.
So thanks for youre lack of interest and your useless post ^^ ... so dont flame
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I tried modifying an APK to do this. I put the flash lite plugin in the flash APK and flashed on CM6.... Didn't work, their was no force closes, it did not even show up as a plugin.
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that was what i experienced :/ maybe it has something to do with the libs and its not just enough that the froyo browser does takte plugins

didnt HTC just open a bunch of the Sence code?
i remember seeing a tweat about it... i think (maybe they opened something else?)
ill see if i can find the post and report back.

playingdoh said:
didnt HTC just open a bunch of the Sence code?
i remember seeing a tweat about it... i think (maybe they opened something else?)
ill see if i can find the post and report back.
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Well, first it's called Sense. Second, it's just the kernel source for some devices..

tomatenjungee said:
the other think tank was on full flash/flash 10.1 for eclair ... this is / was impossible and not a very clever idea.
This is about porting flash lite which we know from sense roms works on our devices.
So thanks for youre lack of interest and your useless post ^^ ... so dont flame
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So sorry I almost came in the way of you and your porn.

r3s-rt said:
So sorry I almost came in the way of you and your porn.
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What were you thinking, I mean, everyone knows Android phones are for porn.

usually i just watch and read, but when a so called senior member has nothing usefull to say but flaming someone who has an idea its pretty much pathetic. and where is the report post to moderator.

elf310 said:
usually i just watch and read, but when a so called senior member has nothing usefull to say but flaming someone who has an idea its pretty much pathetic. and where is the report post to moderator.
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Then how about you go back to just lurking before opening your mouth about something you clearly have no idea about? The fact that FLASH SUCKS and should have been gone a LONG time ago but it's still around is the only pathetic thing here. That's what I originally said, and that's what I'm saying now. Also, I'm sure most people will have no interest in this and it's most likely going to fail. Now, let those balls drop and man the hell up.

r3s-rt said:
FLASH SUCKS and should have been gone a LONG time ago
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I don't know, flash videos and partially flash based sites seem like a good enough reason to try. Especially for porn. (You know, 'cause android phones are for porn.)

Tony_SpaZ said:
I don't know, flash videos and partially flash based sites seem like a good enough reason to try. Especially for porn. (You know, 'cause android phones are for porn.)
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Definitely. Flash is very much the standard for now, and I don't see that changing for some time. HTML5 is great for very basic video playing, but it gets hard to do things dynamically with it. Personally, I've been wishing I could watch the Daily Show on my phone.

Stupid Question: There is no chance to replace OS with andoid auto?

I know that this is a stupid question but i really want to make my wish true
Can I run Android auto instead of any OS? I want to make my GT-P3110 to be my head unit in my car and it fell a bit of lag with every custom ROM.
Thanks in advance,
KrYpToCiD

Kryptocid said:
I know that this is a stupid question but i really want to make my wish true
Can I run Android auto instead of any OS? I want to make my GT-P3110 to be my head unit in my car and it fell a bit of lag with every custom ROM.
Thanks in advance,
KrYpToCiD
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Every device has an OS, the only thing differentiating them is their UI. so the answer is No but your wish isn't stupid at all, and this might come true.
you will need an OS even for android auto to run.
but, with the custom rom installed, you can defrost/ delete unwanted apps. run the ROM, with minimum apps possible/needed that won't hang/lag the device. slim/Aosp ROM should be ideal for it.

billysam said:
Every device has an OS, the only thing differentiating them is their UI. so the answer is No but your wish isn't stupid at all, and this might come true.
you will need an OS even for android auto to run.
but, with the custom rom installed, you can defrost/ delete unwanted apps. run the ROM, with minimum apps possible/needed that won't hang/lag the device. slim/Aosp ROM should be ideal for it.
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I'm not sure if i can but i have some knowledge about programming and you just gave me an excellent idea to try to change the UI on CROM but that is imposible too,right? ??

with android and open source projects, impossible just doesn't fit here. Android is highly customizable. so, a developer, programmer/themer, can help in this.
changes/additional commands can be inserted at the boot. possibilities are unlimited, depends how far you let your imaginations wander.

Heh. I want to try to do something on my own when I'll have enough free time i'll try to get down the UI and to play with boot properties. I don't wana te brick my tab so I'll do on emulator on PC Ty for encouraging )
If I'll get some things that work I'll PM you.
Cheers

Kryptocid said:
Heh. I want to try to do something on my own when I'll have enough free time i'll try to get down the UI and to play with boot properties. I don't wana te brick my tab so I'll do on emulator on PC Ty for encouraging )
If I'll get some things that work I'll PM you.
Cheers
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You're always welcome, but it would be better that you post here instead of PM me, others could also Help/learn.
Maybe someone more knowledgeable than a mere motivator like me. I could barely keep up with the ever fast Pace updates with Android, earlier ones used to be a bit easier for me.
And yes whatever you do, always be dead sure when it comes to making changes at boot. you should know exactly What you're doing and how to recover as well. Take your time and double check. If confused, feel free to use the platform as well.
keep it safe and don't get it bricked, although boot loops and messed up UI while experimenting is common, I have lot of that in experience, lol
Cheers